Garneau Compares Separatism To War In Iraq

Posted on Saturday, January 07 at 15:38 by Anonymous
He said he is confident that Quebeckers will never take the path toward sovereignty, but added he would leave the province if it happened. "Unless you tell me that one could live as a Canadian citizen in a sovereign Quebec . . . I haven't imagined that scenario so far," he said. He said sovereignty would cause "chaos for at least a generation," saying that the standard of living in Canada and in Quebec would "sink." "I think that when you say you're a sovereigntist you have to think it through. I don't think a lot of Quebeckers have thought it through. If they did they'd realize that what they really want to do is to stay in Canada because it is a much better arrangement for them." http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20060105/ELXNGARN05/TPNational/Canada [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on January 9, 2006]

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  1. by michou
    Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:07 am
    Garneau is also the man who recently offered to take Boisclair and Duceppe along for a fourth trip in space with him and said the experience would change them forever. It's probably because Canada looks so "united" from up there. I surely hope that on his previous trips, Mr. Garneau took notice of the dividing line which separates Canada from the United States. <p>---<br>« Il y a une belle, une terrible rationalité dans la décision d'être libre. » - Gérard Bergeron <br />

  2. Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:13 am
    Yes I`m sure that one hurt, Michou. Nous sommes meilleur ensemble! Merci, Monsieur Garneau!

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    Dave Ruston

  3. by michou
    Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:18 am
    <i> I don't think a lot of Quebeckers have thought it through.</i><p>Marc Garneau doesn't think, he spurts out whatever inanities which comes to mind. He would have been better off left in space <p> In 1966, Québec's first independentist party won 8,8% of the popular vote. Forty years later and a little time to THINK, a majority of Québécers today support either sovereignty, outright independence or more autonomy from Canada. Food for thought everyone. <p>---<br>« Il y a une belle, une terrible rationalité dans la décision d'être libre. » - Gérard Bergeron <br />

  4. Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:25 am
    The only thing separatists are thinking is, 'What can we extort from Ottawa this time?'

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    Dave Ruston

  5. Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:34 am
    Et on accuse les méchants séparatistes d'avoir la tête dans les nuages.

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    "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

  6. Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:43 am
    Ma tete est dans les nuages? Oui! Je suis essayer penser au dela des nuages!

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    Dave Ruston

  7. Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:44 am
    >>>Garneau is also the man who recently offered to take Boisclair and Duceppe along for a fourth trip in space with him and said the experience would change them forever.<<<<

    How are they going to get there? A bit presumptuous to be offering rides, don’t you think?

  8. Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:45 am
    Can you believe this f*cking nutbag Liberal. An educated astonaut or astronimcal nut? Here's a <B><A HREF="http://dahrjamailiraq.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album32">photo album</A></B> for you Monsieur Graneau, this is the carnage in Iraq you goddamned ignorant.

  9. Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:48 am
    What can ordinary citzens do to help Quebec separate?

    Seriously, I'd like to help them leave. Assume I can't vote for a Bloc canadidate: what can I do?

  10. Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:09 am
    Well Garneau is part of the problem, people like him have been feeding off the system for far tolong, he as all other Liberal think the have the right to entitlement.

    All pigs feeding out of your pocket.. the system stinks

  11. Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:35 am
    Well the first thing to do would be to avoid voting Liberal. Look, you've got to go easy on Mr. Garneau. After all he's spent a lot of time in the vaccum of space, which is quite different from the vaccum of space that exists between most Liberal's ears.

    The (supposed) threat of Quebec separatism has been the greatest thing to happen to the Liberal Party of Canada. They have a monopoly on the federalist vote in the province and have built up a reputation of giving Quebecers what they want, when the want it. If it wasn't for the separatists Pierre Trudeau, Brian Mulroney, Jean Chretien, and Paul Martin wouldn't have been elected Prime Minister which is reason enough to loathe the separatists even more. Quebec separatism is also responsible for the domination of Quebecers within the civil service.

    At the end of the day both countries wouldn't suffer. We'd have no economic problems in the mid-to-long term period, of course they'd have to pay back their share of the debt and secure the rights of First Nations peoples who want nothing to do with a separate Quebec state. But really, it's a win win situation!

    We'd be able to reform our government, think about it! A 21st century form of government for the 21st century! An elected senate, a supreme court appointed by Parliament, the list goes on. No more bilingualism which means we will actually get to see the long over due development of a Canadian dialect of the English language. People will no longer have to worry about learning French in order to get promoted at work or earn an extra dollar an hour. I think an independent Quebec will improve the image of North America, don't you?

    Why do people continue to claim that once Quebec leaves the country will break up? Why would Canada break up? We've never really got on well enough with Quebec, after all going to Quebec for many Canadians is like going to another country. For the most part, we've gotten on well with each other, except perhaps when it comes to Quebec!

    There would probably be more of a balance between eastern Canada and the west. Westerners may not be that fond of this province (Ontario), but then again who could blame them? At the end of the day the east needs the west more than they need us, but the truth of the matter is that the west does need us and deep down with Quebec gone, I don't think we'd hear much about western separatism.

    With Quebec gone the Liberal power base will be greatly reduced at the least. Maybe we won't have to wait that long for a real political party to take shape and lead this country through the rest of the 21st century. I wish Quebecers the best of luck, so long as independence is achieved in a democratic and considerate way, and that the end result would be fair to English Canada.

    I think the biggest reason why I'd love to see Quebec become independent is because they've been holding us back, almost as much as we've been holding them back. We gained independence almost twenty five years ago, but we haven't achieved much since then because of the question hanging over the province of Quebec. And don't give me that we're a great multicultural, compassionate, and democratic nation to live in and the best country in the world according to the United Nations.

    I think it's already been established that we're not a true democracy, that our standard of living is lower than Ireland's, and that we're not the only compassionate and multicultural nation in the world. You may think I'm being hard on Canada, but with amount of propaganda and flag waving that goes on in this country, wouldn't it be great if someone came along and actually told it like it is?



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    "All great truths begin as blasphemies" - George Bernard Shaw

  12. Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:52 am
    Hello quebec? this is canada calling. Yeah, so anyways its not working out so here's your share of the bills, and we'll take all that stuff we lent you. I'm sure we can just be friends, thanks for everything - it's been real. Buh Bye.

  13. Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:52 pm
    Look, it is not Quebec holding us back. It is those who profit from dividing up Canada along these lines, making it easier to sell us out. Those of you who think we`d all be better off divided, are really not thinking things through. A big country like ours, with all of these resources, infrastructure, and diversity of people, and with the certain networks we have in place, to carve this up, will only be damaging to all. I don`t know why that`s so hard to see.

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    Dave Ruston

  14. Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:24 pm
    Unless we realize a North American version of John Lennon's dream. Maybe deep integration is the answer. Imagine.



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