Alleged Toronto Terror Plot Included Two Police Agents

Posted on Thursday, October 19 at 11:39 by BC Mary
In the days immediately following the arrests, the World Socialist Web Site urged that “all of the claims of the government and the police concerning the alleged terrorist conspiracy, and the further revelations and speculations given out by the media, be treated with the utmost caution and a large degree of skepticism. None of the alleged facts presented by the authorities can be accepted uncritically as true.” This warning was quickly vindicated when, in July, the identity of a first CSIS mole was made public. One Mubin Shaikh admitted to the media that he had been working for CSIS for two years, befriending members of the Toronto group and ultimately going on to lead the two-week “terrorist training camp.” This camp, which largely consisted of paint-ball games, was under blanket surveillance by CSIS and RCMP personnel, while a crack-Canadian Armed Forces special operations unit waited a short helicopter ride away for orders to intervene. With last week’s news that a second mole was at the heart of the “bomb-making” part of the plot, the question is raised anew of the extent to which the alleged Toronto terror plot was—if not a complete fabrication of the security and intelligence apparatus—at the very least carried out with significant encouragement and “facilitation” from them. Clearly, Canada’s security agencies were in a position to manipulate the alleged plotters—a group comprised almost entirely of young men. And manipulate them it did: The arrest of the 18 individuals followed shortly on the heels of an attempted purchase of fertilizer in which the seller turned out to be an undercover RCMP agent. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/oct2006/toro-o19.shtml

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  1. Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:02 pm
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur</a><br />
    An agent provocateur is often a police officer that encourages suspects to carry out a crime under conditions where evidence can be obtained; or who suggests the commission of a crime to another, in hopes they will go along with the suggestion, so they may be convicted of the crime. These are sometimes called sting operations.<br />
    <br />
    Not in Canada! You say.<br />
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    You bet yer bippy, Bucko<br />
    Bunk 'em Dano!<br />
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    and yup I am STILL lookin for the honest man, just not in the Halls of Power though<br />
    <p>---<br>Diogenes said:<br />
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  2. Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:28 pm
    So would this constitute state sponsored terrorism by the Canadian government since it is complict in inducing radical fundamentalism in Canada?

    Surely there must be an official open inquiry into this to determine what CSIS wanted the outcome of its actions to be related to those accused of a terrorist plot. As well the inquiry should enhance clarity on social perspectives regarding the publics views after the Muslim men were detained. All files and documents that CSIS holds on these men specifically their pshycological profiles done by CSIS need to be included in full. This would determine if these men were suggestible to influence and ideologies to make them appropriate targets of propaganda and as such amenable to violence and terrorist actions.

    If in fact that would be the case then the actions of CSIS and the RCMP would be complicict in trying to incite terrorism. The ability for these institutions to use "Sting" operations in these types of cases perpetuates hatred and mistrust. It is just as likely these men would have had no intentions of acting as terrorists if the RCMP and CSIS had no contact with them.

  3. Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:48 am
    I told you guys this Toronto terror plot was a government fabrication. Amazingly, one or two notables in this forum actually thought I was wrong.

    Eventually all the people involved in this phoney terror plot will quietly be released, but not until after they've served their purpose, which is to instill fear into our collective minds so that we accept additional repressive laws for our own "protection".

    We're all being suckered by terrorists who are really agents working for our own respective governments - it seems that the deception was implemented almost all over the world at about the same time as 9/11.

    If it's not fear of terrorists with explosive toothpaste (which never existed), then it's fear from lurking pedophiles in childrens chat forums (where mosts of the victims seem to be cops posing as kids), or fear from red neck preachers spewing hate speech (most who seem to be cops), or fear of mutated bird viruses (brewed up in goverment funded labs like the recently ressurected 1918 bird flu), or whatever the latest fear mongering scam may be that involves government agents posing as something else.

    The bullshit never ends, and there's no lack of brain dead suckers to slop it up.

    Hopefully enough people will wake up before they shut down the internet.

  4. Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:26 am
    Ain't vinication grand

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    Diogenes said:
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  5. by Wraun
    Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:49 pm
    >>Eventually all the people involved in this phoney terror plot will quietly be released
    Yes, a question I have heard no one ask is why these so-called terrorists are being granted bail and being released to await a normal criminal trial. If the government really believed there was a threat to national security, they could hold them indefinitely, not state the charges and without a public trial.
    I've never believed that this was a true terror plot and my first clue was how it so closely followed the election of the Harper regime.
    >>but not until after they've served their purpose, which is to instill fear into our collective minds
    Yes "vindication" is so very grand (heavy on the sarcasm) because once they have served their purpose, the damage will have been done. Fear instilled and public perception forever altered.
    A fine example of the effectiveness of this type of action is the lingering belief that some of the 9/11 hijackers came from Canada.

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    Everybody got to deviate from the norm

  6. Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:58 pm
    "I told you guys this Toronto terror plot was a government fabrication. Amazingly, one or two notables in this forum actually thought I was wrong."
    the vidication stateemnt wwas in response to the above quote and I used NO sarcasm

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    Diogenes said:
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  7. Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:17 pm
    Notably absent from this discussion are the people who backed up the government's fabrication (you know who you are).

    At least most of those people seemed smart enough to have known better than to fall for the lie, which I thought was glaringly obvious enough to see through, so it makes me wonder what motivates these people.

  8. by Wraun
    Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:13 pm
    Didn't mean to imply anything by Dio, sorry ;-]

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    Everybody got to deviate from the norm

  9. by Spanky
    Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:47 am
    Former CIA Officer Robert Steele Reviews Tarpley's 'Synthetic Terror'<br />
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    Progressive Press announced that its "9/11 Synthetic Terror" has just been cited as the best non-fiction book ever by Amazon's top non-fiction book reviewer, intelligence professional Robert Steele, in a 5-star review at <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0930852370">http://www.amazon.com/dp/0930852370</a> .(You have to page down a bit and look for the review by Robert D. Steele).<br />
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    Progressive specializes in books that contend 9/11 was an "inside job." Publisher John Leonard says "it's a coup to have Steele with us on this. Here you have a level-headed, respected insider, lifelong Republican, veteran spy, and he's breaking the taboos. It's a great tribute and a vindication of the work we put into 9/11 Synthetic Terror."<br />
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    Steele's statement that 9/11 was a "US-based conspiracy" may be a first coming from a senior US intelligence community figure. He came to this conclusion "with great sadness" after reading "9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA," which he praises as "without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism."<br />
    <br />
    SNIP<br />
    <br />
    From Steele's Amazon review:<br />
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    It is with great sadness that I conclude that this book is the strongest of the 770+ books I have reviewed here at Amazon, almost all non-fiction. I am forced to conclude that 9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war (see my review of Jim Bamford's "Pretext for War"), and I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict (not necessarily convict) Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others of a neo-conservative neo-Nazi coup d'etat and kick-off of the clash of civilizations (see my review of "Crossing the Rubicon" as well as "State of Denial"). Most fascinatingly, the author links Samuel Huntington, author of "Clash of Civilizations" with Leo Strauss, the connecting rod between Nazi fascists and the neo-cons.<br />
    <br />
    This is, without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism, and also the reference that most pointedly suggests that select rogue elements within the US Government, most likely led by Dick Cheney with the assistance of George Tenet, Buzzy Kronguard, and others close to the Wall Street gangs, are the most guilty of state-sponsored terrorism.<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/3897">http://www.911blogger.com/node/3897</a>



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