Canada's Legal System Goes On Trial Today

<blockquote> "...the documents in the BCRail case totalling over 100,000 and counting." <p>"It is estimated that the presentation of tens of thousands of exhibits and the testimony of hundreds of witnesses at Pickton's trial will take a year, probably more." </p></blockquote> <p>And not to forget the Air India farce, with it's extraordinary cost, along with the 10's of millions of dollars spent sifting through the Pickton farm. And there is the Gomery Report (while not a murder case per se, it never-the-less involves the gathering of countless documents, and of a outlay of... what? ...80 million). One may argue that justice should not have a price put upon it, but then, justice in the healthcare system shouldn't have a price put on it either, yet it does (or at least it is being attempted).</p> The legal system has bogged down in minutia, because anyone of literally thousands of places where an error could be made will serve to nullify a whole prosecution. What is needed is to recognize that an "i" that has not been dotted will in all likliehood not jeopardize a case, and the omission or addition of a peripheral error may be recognized and used only if the outcome is not conclusive, based on the remainder of the evidence. Good post, BCM!<p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
-Max Planck<br />
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A persons guilt has to be proven. What is the price of freedom? Individuals are confronted by the Prosecuter who has unlimited funding to find them guilty. The jury must be of the accused peer group and unbias. Once accused, the person may spend years incarcerated before facing the judge and jury. In a criminal trial, the accused may loose everything and won't be compensated regardless of the outcome of the trial. If you are found innocent, your life will still be changed forever. So the price of a trial is expensive to all. Not all accused are guilty.

One thing I don't understand, is why must the trial(s) continue for each and every victim. I suppose it is to insure all crimes are solved and a copycat will not go free. Unfortunatly, once the ball is rolling, investigators don't look beyond.

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Expect little from life and get more from it.

In the BCRail Trial, scheduled for 2 April 2007, I figure it's the British
Columbia system of government which is going on trial.

In a perfect world, it would be conducted as a Civics 101 course ...
making crystal clear: what was the objective with BCRail? Was there a
public need to get rid of the railway? Was there in fact consensus for
privatization of BCRail? If so, how should it have been handled? If the
process failed, where did it fail?

If once we could plainly see all that, then there's a chance of seeing who
was responsible for the flaws, if any.

The BC Rail trial, I think, should be televised. Every British Columbian --
whether they fully realize it yet, or not -- has reason to know exactly
what happened to Canada's 3rd largest railway which once was ours.

The danger, I believe, is that the ugly shocks from the Pickton trial will
mesmerize everyone's attention and the BC Rail trial will get sidelined.

The BCRail trial must be handled well and be widely understood. If not,
we'll end up with a lingering resentment, knowing that although
something had gone terribly wrong with the "sale", all the flaws still
remain -- unnoticed and uncorrected -- within the B.C. system of
government.

Thanks for the kind words (above).

They procrastinated on the BC Rail sale to the point few will remember what it was all about. There is no justice, sometimes. BC voters have a very short memory and Campbell knows it. Few remember all those laid off from day one or the contracts he canceled. They (the voters)blame the problems with BC ferries on the NDP but forget who sold them off (and to whom).

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Expect little from life and get more from it.

<blockquote> In a perfect world, it would be conducted as a Civics 101 course ... making crystal clear: what was the objective with BCRail? Was there a public need to get rid of the railway? Was there in fact consensus for privatization of BCRail? If so, how should it have been handled? If the process failed, where did it fail? </blockquote>When any public resource is effectively sold to private concerns, there should be a vote from the public, and the vote should be compulsory.

So we have BC Rail
BC Hydro
BC Ferries........
all effectively privatized under the table.

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"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
-Max Planck

“My concern is that the Pickton trial may prevent the BC Rail trial from receiving even the minimum of public attention, by flooding the news media with emotional, stomach-churning publicity when the BCRail Trial begins on April 2nd.”

With all due respect,
I have to ask, “What kind of a mind would, in the face of what is know about the events leading up to the trial of Basi, Virk, et al, be so blind as not to see the timing of the raid on the legislation incident where cartons of what can only be described as evidence were removed, by police, was not juggled to a time slot where it will be over shadowed by a mass murder trial?”
Some people are still walking around under “The Illusion” there is justice in the law courts of to-day.
I can assure you “justice” is an illusion for those who know not that they know not,

Flowery phrases, proper English with punctuation and correct spelling will NOT remove the layers of deceit, nor the beliefs in a system that serves the few. It will take the sharpest of minds, both of the legal as well as of the layman to follow the game of law played in the court of law, and while the trial, not of the Canadian legal system as identified by Ian Mulgrew, but of true democracy itself gets short shift on the playing fields of law, government will carry on as if nothing is awry.

Good post?
Good God! How low can the standards go?
We are now living in a time where the officials foisted on a dumbed down and gullible public by a corrupt press does the “thinking” for the majority do what their masters tell them.



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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

Every good revolution needs a leader, Dio. You wanna lead? Or are you castigating us from the pulpit? The last (and only) middle class revolution to succeed was the American one, and look what it amounted to over time. Or are you suggesting we have nothing to lose but our chains? If so, you mustn't forget that the chains we are bound up in have not yet begun to chafe, so you won't get many adherents, except in the coffeehouse circuit.

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"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
-Max Planck

There's no question, judging from the TV coverage of the first day, that we'll be flooded and inundated with the sordid details of this mess, completely ignoring that the police did nothing for years, to find out what happened to these women.

Now they're trying to make amends to cover up everything with the oversupply of details.

It is also obvious, that the details of the Basi/Virk trial won't get a single percent of the coverage.

The interesting thing about the controlled media is how they react to crime stories. Under the communists there were no crimes, or accidents, reported, only stories praising the governments and cursing "enemies". Under the capitalists the main events are covered up with crimes, accidents and warm puppies. Both sides crazy on so called "sports" to divert attention.

Ed Deak.

Don’t even go there Bro! ‘Cause if you do, you have learned nothing from any of my posts. The *REAL* revolution, THE *ONLY* revolution is the one that takes place between the ears, and for that one *YOU* are the leader. To even suggest nothing be done fly’s in the face of everything I post or present here and only a fool would miss that, Are you such a fool? I thought not and now I’m not sure. Further don’t to so certain as to who will and who won’t.

The folk I know that have, have done so singularly and yet share their info with others on the same path

Some times I swear to god the majority of you take one post or one bit of information as stand-alone unrelated bits with no inter connections what-so-ever.
I have never expected to, nor do I want an army of the brain dead to follow me or anyone else for that matter.
There are a handful of free thinkers here. There is always room for more. If you are the type that must have heroes for inspiration then you have lined up where you belong. Enjoy your parade.

Your idea of revolution is so Boston Tea party, which by the way is only more Yankee propaganda


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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

Sorry Dio, but you DO come on like "so Boston Tea Party".....
But there is only one way to handle the people "on top", and it was best said by Arnold-Aimery at the seige of Beziers: "Kill them all. God will know his own."
There is no redemption....and they WILL NOT leave you alone, so you have to make them go away. If you can't do that, then you have to accept what they do.

I for one do not have the patience of a Ghandi. So there are two choices: either live out your life and leave this mortal coil, or: make them go away.


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"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
-Max Planck

You have need of apologising for you have less knowledge of the Boston tea party fable than you have of me.
It is obvious to me you have no idea of which you speak.
Have you read and do you know Blackstone’s Commentaries?
Do you have on your hard drive Black’s Law Dictionary or Bouvier’s?
Do you know the Maxims (foundations) of law and how those foundations may be applied?
Not by your responses you don’t

I really don’t have much time for those who are chained to limited thinking, RPW


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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

There is something about these exchanges, RPW, that makes me uneasy and what that something is, is the replies do not match the guesswork in the lead story and subsequent hoorahs and hosannas.
Because of my association with half a dozen lawyers who have been screwed over by the law society and the courts I have developed an insight I haven’t seen duplicated here.



The courts, the law society and most likely backroom Liberal power brokers want a lid put on this “case”. That the corruption runs long and deep can be of no question.

As for the bit about Ian Mulgrew being “one of the best journalists writing today,” I find that an odd statement to make about a member of MSM.

The Just-us system of British Columbia/Canada is NOT on trial! And will hardly be questioned by more that a handful of people and even then there will be no sentence to pronounce.
But it doesn’t matter what the outcome of this particular trial is there will be hardly a blip in the activity that preceded it.




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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

<blockquote> the ringleaders were all landholders or somewhat wealthy merchants </blockquote>The rising middle class of the time. Before the Hansiatic League and such, you wuz either rich or poor.<p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
-Max Planck<br />
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