Lebanon, Israel And Obscenity

Posted on Friday, July 21 at 10:15 by 4Canada
An Israeli journalist told Peter Mansbridge that Israel wants to “solve” the Hezbollah problem for good and counts on the U.S. to let it do so. But, as is often acknowledged in Israel, the real aim is not a solution. It is to buy some time by destroying or degrading the other side for a while. That is all. So, in 1982, Israel occupied Lebanon to solve the presence of the PLO. The PLO left and, shortly after, Hezbollah was created. By 2000, Hezbollah had driven Israel out. Now, at most, Israel will buy more time and something new will arise. http://www.rabble.ca/columnists_full.shtml?x=51434 [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on July 21, 2006]

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  1. by KWL
    Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:45 pm
    Rick is one of few MSM journalists who actually makes any sense on this subject. A good read.

  2. Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:47 pm
    We have a Prime Minister who flys to Lebanon with his wife and Government photographer. Looks good to the veiwing audiance while he suports the bombing and distruction of the country. He wants Bush to know, that he dare to be at the back door of Iran. Guess where Canadas military will be going next? One wonders why Bush and Harper don't just set up their offices in a slaughterhouse. Israel is in their glory. Picking off pigeons while getting brownie points from Canada and the US.

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    Expect little from life and get more from it.

  3. by rjb
    Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:18 pm
    <p>Harper asserted yesterday that he has taken a '<a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060720/harper_foreign_060720/20060720?hub=TopStories">principled</a>' stance on this issue by simply reiterating Israel's right to defend itself, which no reputable nation or organization in the West has denied. Is it the principled stance of turning the clock in lebanon back 20 years? Harper's jar of principles is only half full, if that. Where's the principle in standing back and watching while innocent people are killed and the way of life for many thousands more (hundreds of thousands in fact) destroyed. Where is the principle in watching 10 years of work and more at rebuilding a wartorn country unravel in the span of a week!?!? Where is the outrage or compassion, or even a comforting word to these people? Stephen Harper says he makes up his own mind about things and doesn't let public opinion sway his decisions. Why does this pathetic bore of a publicity seeker speak on behalf of Canadians? I didn't know we signed up for a dictator when some of us elected this minority government. </p> <p> This is the most deafening silence from a Canadian leader in living memory and just goes to show how inhuman these world leaders are that frame the world as a battle of the west versus X and allow thousands to die in the name of a modern crusade that isn't even clear to anybody except those who think world affairs is just a more realistic version of the risk boardgame. As many people have already said, Lebanon was a part of the West to begin with! </p> <p>it's a sad day for the lebenese, but an even sadder day for Canadians who believe that their government is serving any good other than that of a small-time politicians ghastly self-interest and/or megalomania.</p> <code>petition for canadians on the <a href="http://lebanon.koruld.com/">crisis in lebanon</a></code>

  4. Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:41 am
    What's most telling from the Harper crew is they made barely a peep when Israel targeted and killed nearly an entire Canadian family.

    Reading around the web you get a sense from many of their supporters that because they were immigrant Canadians, and especially but not said outright - Muslim immigrants that they don't matter. Read the CBC letter page and you get a sense of the racism that permeates the Conservative Party of Canada.

    They are slowly but surely killing their re-election chances, and that is about the only good thing they have done over this issue.

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    If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

  5. Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:10 am
    Yes, Harper can try and keep all OUR MPs shut up but he hasn't been able to disconnect from the loud, ignorant mass that supports him like the mucus that covers a threatened slug.

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    "And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

  6. Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:51 pm
    RJB:

    Excellent comments.

    Reminds me of the allies prior to WW2. Remember Neville Chamberlain?. He among other leaders did nothing, and is still regarded with scorn some 67 years later. Israel has made it's intentions plain yet Bush, Blair, Harper stand idly by. I hear Condi Rice will fit a visit into her schedule sometime next week!. What arrogance.

    Here's a copy of a letter I sent to the Globe and Mail, in response to one of their editorials. Not surprisingly it did not get printed today. However to be fair to the Globe and Mail other similar letters were printed.

    "What hypocrisy!. You feel that the Prime Minister was right in supporting Israel in the massive destruction of Lebanon and then to greet the Canadian/Lebanese as they flee that destruction. No ! the right thing would have been for him and his entourage to fly directly from France to Canada on a commercial airline so as to free up several more seats on his aircraft for the use of those driven out of Lebanon. Forgive me for thinking that this is simply an exercise first in securing the Jewish vote and then minimizing the loss of the Lebanese vote when the next election comes along."

    Frank

  7. by RPW
    Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:01 pm
    Quote from letter to Harper's, July 2006, regarding Neville Chamberlain:<br />
    "In 1937, now prime minister, Chamberlain saw that war with Germany, Italy, and Japan at once was physically and financially impossible; a political approach was the only one feasible. In October 1939, Chamberlain wrote that it would be 'madness' to slacken the effort to rearm (Britain was spending 38% of government revenue on defense - in spite of the Great Depression). Nor was this said with the benefit of hindsight: as Chamberlain drove away from the airport on his return from Munich, having declared 'peace for our time', his private reaction to his enthusiastic welcome was: 'All this will be over in three months.'"<br />
    <br />
    Submitted to Harper's by:<br />
    Catherine Atherton<br />
    Professor of Classics<br />
    UCLA<br />
    Los Angeles<br />
    <a href="http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/classics/faculty/regular/Atherton.htm">http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/classics/faculty/regular/Atherton.htm</a><p>---<br>"We can have a democracy or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."<br />
    - Justice Louis Brandeis

  8. Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:53 pm
    Since Harper went to bed with a whore, now he is finding out what it is like to wake up with a whore. Unfortunately for him, the whore does not look as good in the sobering morning sunrise as she did during the drunken' moonlight.

  9. Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:36 pm
    how can one have peace with a terrorist organisation? what exatly does that even mean? hezbollah's stated aim is the destruction of israel. hamas has stated that not only do they want to destroy israel they want to murder every jew now living in what is israel.

    peace will only come when we are dealing with nation states not terrorist parties masking themselves as statesmen.

    so much for the un in this matter.



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