Canada Needs Word Of Common Purpose

Posted on Tuesday, October 16 at 11:06 by 4Canada
She would be silent because those worn Conservative themes are tangential to national success. Harper would instead put words in her mouth about those things that make the difference between leading and following the world pack – liveable, competitive cities, an education strategy and policies that don't look away from social shames. Most of all, he would make certain her speech frames this generation's existential test, its dirty thirties Depression, its world war. Canada's head remains firmly buried in its tar sands and energy superpower ambitions as others surge past searching for innovation, sustainability and, yes, profit. A "new" government with a record as bad as the old is making common-cause with the worst polluters, minimizing persuasive scientific evidence and ignoring a watershed change in international consciousness. http://www.thestar.com/columnists/article/267235

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  1. by N Say
    Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:24 pm
    Why won't you watch the throne speech? How will you know what to criticize if you don't, or do you let Jim Travers do all your thinking for you? The whole reason it's on primetime is so people can tune in hear about what the government is planning, directly, with no media spin (one of Trudeau's ideas incidentally).

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    "George Bush has declared the war on terrorism to be the cause of his generation. The cause of Canadian sovereignty will be ours." - John Godfrey, MP for Don Va

  2. Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:27 pm
    I'm often surprised at how in tune my thinking is with Jim Travers. I
    consider him to be rational and a common sense kind of thinker which I
    appreciate very much. I don't agree with everything he says and Travers does
    not do my thinking for me NSay (thanks for asking), but he certainly writes
    the way I think.

    I have to admit there is not one thing Harper could say to me to change the
    way I feel about him as a person. I have followed parliament long enough
    and listened to him interviewed when in opposition to know how little regard
    he has for the country I love and his intent to destroy it.

    Your tag line is starting to stink by the way.



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    "The most sustainable product is the one you never bought in the first place."
    Alex Steffan

  3. Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:04 pm
    "I'm often surprised at how in tune my thinking is with Jim Travers. I consider him to be rational and a common sense kind of thinker which I appreciate very much."

    He is a rational left-liberal, statist, Torontocentric thinker, as are most if not all of the other columnists at the Toronto Star.

    "I have to admit there is not one thing Harper could say to me to change the way I feel about him as a person."

    Really? That seems pretty closed-minded.

    Personally, I like Harper. I like his strategic sense, and his toughness, which comes across as the strength of one who believes in something, not simply the thuggish, egocentric power-lust that characterized the regime of Jean Chretien.

    "I have followed parliament long enough and listened to him interviewed when in opposition to know how little regard he has for the country I love and his intent to destroy it."

    If your "country" is *Trudeau's* Canada, then yes, Harper is looking to destroy it. Fortunately, Pierre Trudeau neither invented nor took out a patent on the Canadian identity. He (and David Lewis) offered one vision, Harper offers another. Harper's Canada is still Canada. It just looks different from Trudeau's.

    As for Travers' own straw men...

    Harper "blathers" about justice because Liberals and their appointees have spent decades coddling criminals while simultaneously vilifying law-abiding but unpopular groups (i.e. gun owners).

    And the Toronto Star is an even worse offender than the Liberals. About the only things the Star writers don't want the federal government throwing money at are the police and the military. With everything else, they're drunken bleeding-heart sailors. What else can you say about people who think that somebody robs a store a gunpoint solely because they didn't have a basketball court to shoot hoops at after school?

    Harper wouldn't promise tax cuts if taxes haven't been used by Liberals for decades to fund divisive, self-serving social engineering projects, greasing of cronies and corporate welfare.

    Harper wouldn't need to rebuild the military if it hadn't been underfunded by Liberals who were intent on turning our armed forces into Katimavik in fatigues.

    And I'm not going to even dignify Travers' typical Star whining about how Toronto isn't powerful enough and doesn't get enough money from the federal and provincial troughs.

    And as for the tar sands, I'm sure Travers would love there to be another NEP so that the federal government can confiscate enough of Alberta's oil wealth to keep Torontonians happy and inflict even more do-gooder social engineering on us. Yee-haw!

  4. by N Say
    Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:46 pm
    "I have to admit there is not one thing Harper could say to me to change the way I feel about him as a person" <P> Well at least you're honest about it. Do you pride yourself on your ignorance? & what's wrong with my tagline? <p>---<br>"George Bush has declared the war on terrorism to be the cause of his generation. The cause of Canadian sovereignty will be ours." - John Godfrey, MP for Don Va

  5. Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:19 am
    A rational person can appreciate Jim Travers' articles. After all, as much, or little, as you would choose to disagree, you can't help but appreciate his elucidation of the facts behind his opinions.

    He is as close as it gets to a balanced view.

    Any further to the right or left departs from reality.

  6. by N Say
    Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:29 am
    I'm not saying I disagree with Travers but in the end I decide for myself. If the government releases a report I read it, as well as whatever the media says. What I don't understand is people who agree/disagree with something without necessarily knowing the official reason or official story is.

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    "George Bush has declared the war on terrorism to be the cause of his generation. The cause of Canadian sovereignty will be ours." - John Godfrey, MP for Don Va

  7. by N Say
    Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:32 am
    I doubt you read much either. The Conservatives so far are totally different from what you think.

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    "George Bush has declared the war on terrorism to be the cause of his generation. The cause of Canadian sovereignty will be ours." - John Godfrey, MP for Don Va

  8. Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:01 am
    "About the only things the Star writers don't want the federal government throwing money at are the police and the military."

    Actually, about the only thing the Federal Government is throwing money at these days is the Police and Military to support the Yanks' bogus pre-fab "Terror War".

    Just like in the States, under this sell out clone government, Canada's crime rate is increasing, more people are becoming homeless, illiteracy is on the rise, the gap between the rich and poor gets larger, police intimidation has become the norm and people's civil liberties are being trampled. Of course, let's not forget Canada's image on the world stage being tarnished due to arrogant foreign and environmental policies.

    More and more, it looks like Harper's vision of Canada has been Born in the USA. Looks like it's going to take a little more than a propoganada driven, politically partisan throne speech to turn this mess around.

  9. Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:56 am
    "If your "country" is *Trudeau's* Canada, then yes, Harper is looking to
    destroy
    it. Fortunately, Pierre Trudeau neither invented nor took out a patent on the
    Canadian identity. He (and David Lewis) offered one vision, Harper offers
    another. Harper's Canada is still Canada. It just looks different from
    Trudeau's."

    From what I can tell Harper has no vision for Canada whatsoever. Harper has
    a vision of a much larger US of A and he intends to try and make that happen.

    And what exactly did you see as the Trudeau/Lewis vision for Canada?

    I am closed to Harper the same way I am closed to Bush, neither of them have
    enough credibility for me to take them at their word.

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    "The most sustainable product is the one you never bought in the first place."
    Alex Steffan

  10. by N Say
    Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:09 pm
    Are you blind? Do you know anything about the Gateway initiatives? Everyone (including myself) seemed to think Harper was a Bush/US lover & would sell us out no doubt. However he has done just the opposite with the Gateway initiatives, which will encourage more business from countries other than the US. Do you think Harper will cut spending on everything? The $33 BILLION Building Canada is there to upgrade our infrastructure for that. I mean instead of privatizing VIA Rail (which wouldn't have surprised me) they just spent hundreds of millions on upgrading it between Windsor & Quebec. Somehow that doesn't seem to be getting through to you. Wake up!

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    "George Bush has declared the war on terrorism to be the cause of his generation. The cause of Canadian sovereignty will be ours." - John Godfrey, MP for Don Va

  11. Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:32 pm
    "What I don't understand is people who agree/disagree with something without necessarily knowing the official reason or official story is."

    There is the official reason, and often, the real reason.

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  12. by N Say
    Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:43 pm
    That's what I said but people who don't even find out the official reason don't know what to criticize. They can try to talk about it but they look pretty stupid.

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    "George Bush has declared the war on terrorism to be the cause of his generation. The cause of Canadian sovereignty will be ours." - John Godfrey, MP for Don Va

  13. Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:08 pm
    Don't be name calling. They may have read them, but read it differently than you.

    "However he has done just the opposite with the Gateway initiatives . ."

    Take your comment above for example. I read them. What does improvements at the US border have to do with improving Ontario <-> Quebec trade? What deficiencies in this trade will be corrected with the NE trade corridor plan? What are the deficiencies?

    That trade announcement came at the same time as the Prince Rupert terminal opened. I see great benefits from that, especially for Edmonton. But, who is driving the Prince Rupert terminal, and the NW corridor plan? Telus? Bell? Both have reps on the NW Corridor board.

    There are the official reasons for these, and there are the real reasons. They might be the same. But it's up to us to question whether they are.

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