China Floats, America Sinks

Posted on Monday, July 25 at 18:00 by Ed Deak
Economics Lesson #2: Don't take economics lessons from George Bush. Or Milton Friedman. Or Thomas Friedman. What that means, class, is don't believe the big, hot pile of hype that China's zooming economy is the result of that Red nation's adopting free market economic policies. If China is now a capitalist free-market state, then I'm Mariah Carey. China's economy has soared because it stubbornly refused the Free - and Friedman-Market mumbo-jumbo that government should stop controlling, owning and regulating industry. China's announcement that it would raise the cost of the yuan covered over a more important notice that China would bar foreign control of its steel sector. China's leaders have built a powerhouse steel industry larger than ours by directing the funding, output, location and ownership of all factories. And rather than "freeing" the industry through opening their borders to foreign competition, the Chinese, for steel and every other product, have shut their borders tight to foreigners except as it suits China's own needs. China won't join NAFTA or CAFTA or any of those free-trade clubs. In China, Chinese industry comes first. And it's still, Mssrs. Friedman, the Peoples' republic. Those Wal-Mart fashion designs called, chillingly, "New Order," are made in factories owned by the PLA, the Chinese Peoples' Liberation Army. In an interview just before he won the Nobel Prize in economics, Joe Stiglitz explained to me that China's huge financial surge -- a stunning 9.5% jump in GDP this year -- began with the government's funding and nurturing rural cooperatives, fledgling industry protected behind high, high trade barriers. It is true that China's growth got a boost from ending the bloodsoaked self-flagellating madness of Mao's Cultural Revolution. And China, when it chooses, makes use of markets and market pricing to distribute resources. However, Chinese markets are as free as my kids: they can do whatever they want unless I say they can't. Yes, China is adopting elements of "capitalism." And that's the ugly part: real estate speculation in Shanghai making millionaires of Communist party boss relatives and bank shenanigans worthy of a Neil Bush. It is not the Guangdong skyscrapers and speculative bubble which allows China to sell us $162 billion more goods a year than we sell them. It is that China's government, by rejecting free-market fundamentalism, can easily conquer American markets where protection is now deemed passé. And that is why the yuan has kicked the dollar's butt. America's only response is to have Alan Greenspan push up real interest rates so we can buy back our own dollars the Chinese won in the export game. The domestic result: US wages drifting down to Mexican maquiladora levels. Am I praising China? Forget about it. This is one evil dictatorship which jails union organizers and beats, shackles and tortures those who don't kowtow to the wishes of Chairman Rob -- Wal-Mart chief Robson Walton. (Funny how Mr. Bush never mentions the D-word, Democracy, to our Chinese suppliers.) Class dismissed. Greg Palast, winner of the Financial Times David Thomas Prize for his writings on regulation, is author of the New York Times bestseller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. Read his interview with Nobelist Joseph Stiglitz for BBC Television. Reprinted from GregPalast.com: -- [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on July 27, 2005]

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  1. by Patm
    Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:05 am
    Link goes to a different story (though a good one!).

    Its funny you know, China plays a completely different set of rules than the west. For one, they borrow from the central bank at (effectively) no interest while the west borrows from private banks at WHOPPING interest - even though we have our own central banks and the constitutional powers to create our own currencies. Instead, we allow banks to create our currencies as debt... Where the hell is the sense in that?

    Of course, all that debt feeds a LOT of interest into the pockets of the top 1% of wealth in western countries. Considering that the interest owing each year, and the minimum payback amount, added together, is greater than the pitiful amount our governments create (debt free money, coins and bills), there is no way we can pay off the debt. The only way to meet payments is to borrow more.

    China knows better - they don't play the Federalist game. Like Roosevelt, they know banks will rob the country blind and destroy any gains they make in the long term.

  2. Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:16 am
    And the other difference here is, China can defend herself in case the banking clan and the 'free marketers' want to wage war on China for her economic policies. Saddam and others were attacked primarily for their 'against the grain' economic policies!

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    Dave Ruston

  3. by Patm
    Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:27 am
    Yeah, like switching to the Euro in 2000, precipitating Iran, North Korea, and Venezuela's conversions. Opec started talking openly about the benefits of the Euro and Bush, predictibly, rushed to war to show the "axis of evil" that switching to the Euro was "baaad" as Pop would say.

    Iran didn't listen. They opened a joint energy research facility who's mission was to create a new energy exchange, priced in Euros, which would break the monopoly of the greenback for status as petrodollar. This is why the PSA* is waging war on Iran at this moment through its own terrorist group, the M.E.C. Bombing civilians is only bad when the "enemy" does it you see. Just like the Cuban exiles bombing Cuban Airliners with CIA funding and operating openly in Florida.

    Anyway, the ground air war in Iran should start soon (if it hasn't already, the mass media did such a good job of NOT telling us when the PSA and Britain started their air wars 8 months before any declaration of war). The exchange
    is due to open any time now.

    * PSA = Police States of America. If you can be secretly arrested under a secret warrent taken out during a secret investigation, with charges being kept secret from you and your detention being kept secret from your lawyer and your family - for an indefinate amount of time, for TAKING OUT A LIBRARY BOOK - that is a police state.

  4. Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:19 pm
    China has a long way to go before it surpasses the US.Far too pessimistic.This hyperbole of the end of America has been going on for years.

  5. Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:00 pm
    you're right Anon, no need to worry, nothing going on here, you just go back to sleep now. Everything will be ok

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    Like a great red wine at the end of a good meal or a Van Morrison song played at just the right time, proof there is a god and every once in a while she smiles.

  6. Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:17 pm
    In direct response to:<br />
    <br />
    "by Kevan Taylor on Tuesday, July 26 2005 @ 01:00 PM MDT (Good, 1 votes)"<br />
    <br />
    And on behalf of the "anon" "Kevan Taylor" was addressing.<br />
    <br />
    What IS going on. YOU "go back to sleep" dim wit! By the time you wake up ALL of your FranCanCorp owned country's Vivendi Universal/Bertelsmann AG/CBC/Power Corporation of Canada subversive propaganda will be out in the light of day, "eh"? Yeah. "Aboot" time too "eh"...here's your link...<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163565,00.html">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163565,00.html</a><br />
    <br />
    need your "sign" too?

  7. by avatar Jesse
    Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:40 pm
    Anon, can you please attempt to post coherent arguments without insults? Thanks.

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    Every time you complain about the moderators, god kills a kitten.

  8. Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:46 pm
    And "Kevan Taylor" s insult WASN'T an insult to the "anon"??? (eh???)...yeah, little richard...we ALL know you are distinctly prejudiced against any and all outsiders in favor of YOUR very own personal anti-American racist "cause" already. No one actually *believes* you are a "moderator" but YOU little boy. So you now how are YOU going to insult ME next??? I know you will. "Eh"?

  9. by avatar Milton
    Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:02 pm
    The comments were very good before anon butted in to try to deflect the drift of the conversation and he, she or it, succeeded. What say we ignore inane comments like that henceforth? Just carry on around the obstruction like water rolling over a rock.

  10. Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:03 am
    China's growth is leaps and bounds past Canada and the US combined. 9.5% last year while we are restricted to 3% maximum by policy. Anything over 3% causes inflation you see, of course, at 9.5% China has seen no inflation...

    The only way for our economy to grow is to borrow money. You cannot go from 6 trillion GDP to 7 trillion GDP without adding 1 trillion of currency to the market. If you don't add the extra currency, you get deflation (which I think would be a GREAT thing myself).

    In China, much of that is added by interest free, government created money and money borrowed from the central bank at near zero interest. The cost of building something is the cost of building it. Here in North America, the cost of building something is the cost of building plus 200% in interest charges over the life of the market rate loan, so at least 3 times the actual price of doing something.

    In other words, we cannot grow without increasing total debt, period. It is the way our system is set up and it was purposefully set up that way.

    If people think I'm crazy, let me know. I can always give a primer on how the whole scam works.

  11. by RPW
    Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:44 am
    China has agreed to let the Yuan float, in order to put a brake on their economy, because they are running into energy and water shortages. The rising Yuan will stall things (a might), until the central government can "straighten out" these two kinks in their growth.

    PS I wonder what WalMart will do with increased costs on imports from China - lower wages some more?

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    RickW

  12. Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:07 am
    Actually, there is another spin to this story. How true it is, I couldn't say: But here goes.

    The American dollar has taken a licking since the Euro was introduced. Much of the world has dumped american currencies, the last large holdouts are in asia - particularly china.

    By un-pegging the Yaun from the PSA dollar, China has also unpegged its economy fom the PSA itself. This may signal that it is no longer interested in American currency and it may start dumping reserves and not keep rolling PSA bonds over, in effect, calling in its markers.

    This could be deadly for America, it's what they rushed to attack Iraq to prevent. Its what they are demonizing and terror bombing Iran to stave off. The collapse of the American economy AND ours, since we're mini-America.

  13. by RPW
    Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:56 am
    How about a US-China hegemony then? Go after Russia with it's oil (and in China's case, water), split the spoils, and when that runs out, have a go at each other?<br />
    <br />
    The hegemony would not be a stable one (natch!), but would serve mutual wants and needs for the moment. China is beginning to "flex" it's muscle vis a vis US, so that this hegemony would be one of equals.<br />
    <a href="http://www.economist.com/research/articlesBySubject/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4198701&subjectID=349020&fsrc=nwl&emailauth=%2527%25290%253A%253E%2522%255C%2540CQ%2540%2523%252C%250A">http://www.economist.com/research/articlesBySubject/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4198701&subjectID=349020&fsrc=nwl&emailauth=%2527%25290%253A%253E%2522%255C%2540CQ%2540%2523%252C%250A</a><br />
    <p>---<br>RickW

  14. Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:02 am
    The Bank of Canada Act also has provision for all levels of governments to borrow interest free, because the Bank of Canada is owned by the people of Canada. Whereas the US Federal Reserve has a government appointed head, but it is a privately owned string of banks, some of them multinationals.

    Why no Canadian government, or political party demanded interest free loans is beyond comprehension? We now have to pay interest on money we already own and accept the responsibility for the debts created by the money creating activities of chartered banks, while the created capital is being used to dispossess Canadians of their jobs and properties, while increasing foreign ownership without any benefits to the public.

    This has to be the best con game and racket in history, yet no politician dares to talk about it, as it would ruin their reputations of being "middle of the road". Which means wilfully ignoring daylight robbery, as it would hurt the feelings of the crooks. Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.



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