Homelessness

Posted on Thursday, June 10 at 14:16 by Rose
Today, the bomerang effect is felt by the landlords. Open house, free boom boxes, free TTC PASSES, free first month's rent etc. is the order of the day. The Public Housing lists have grown much, much longer since. R0se

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  1. by N Say
    Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:35 pm
    Is that all part of the common-sense revolution? Where's the common sense in throwing people out on the street? lol

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  2. Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:44 pm
    Hear! Hear! Jack Layton is now the last person I wanna vote for in this election. Shame on him for even suggesting that a federal program cancelation can be responsible for homelessness deaths. The program was corrupt at the main office. Men are not the priority in affordable housing services, women are. How many homeless women die each year on the street each year due to homelessness? Put the blame where it belongs. The Ontario Tories could only think about letting the rich get richer while scrapping our economic base. If you want to change the country, voting Liberal is still the way to go.

  3. Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:54 pm
    <i>Shame on him for even suggesting that a federal program cancelation can be responsible for homelessness deaths</i><p> So responsibility for one's actions is unfasionable still. If I leave a loaded handgun around, I'm not responsible for anyone it kills? I can drive drunk, and not be responsible for pedestrians I mow down?<p> <i>If you want to change the country, voting Liberal is still the way to go.</i><p> And the most significant change the Liberals have performed in the last 10 years is:_______________<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
    "The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

  4. Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:56 pm
    Martin cut transfer payments to the provinces.

    Homelessness increased.

    You do the math.



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  5. Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:17 am
    Investing in homelessness works. Toronto used to have few homeless people, but then the city started investing millions of dollars in programs to keep people living on the street and now we have thousands of homeless.

  6. Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:27 am
    I applaud Jack Layton for holding Martin accountable, I would like to see more of this in politics! I think it is irresponsible for politicians to make laws, create policy and or cut programs without taking into consideration the results of their actions. If I am in charge of writing cheques for the month end payroll and don't, the employees can't pay their rent, mortgage or buy groceries, medicine etc; so if they get booted out onto the street, or their child dies without the meds, or they are forced to steal because they have no funds for food...am I responsible???Some would say well no, because you just made a mistake or were incompetent, but the person without the pay cheque still had choices...really? There are consequences for our actions, if the above scenerio were true, I would be fired...I would be made accountable asap!

    So why are our hired,(by election process) employees working for us, not accountable to us for their decisions?

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  7. Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:40 am
    Yeah, Martin has responsibility for this too because as Jim said, the cuts to transfer payments and other funding were damaging. But Harris, well, I won`t say here what i think of him!

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  8. Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:51 am
    I am not saying there isn't plenty of blame to go around, but Layton isn't doing battle for this election with Harris, it is the Martin record in question and that is what needs to be discussed. When Martin found away around paying CSL taxes in Canada he found a way to short change Canadians of money for social systems. When he cut funding to the social systems he created the atmosphere for more problems. When he didn't make sure where the money was going in the sponsorship issue, he again mismanaged our money. Also with gun registry,BSE money and on and on; when they mismanage our money the create the setting for social problems and they need to be made accountable!

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  9. Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:38 am
    Well I don't know about everyone else but I want to make changes to Canada. I however was thinking of making postive ones though so I will not be voting Liberal.

    I don't see how blaming people for the homlessnes crisis can help. Instead of blaming we should be solving.

  10. Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:46 am
    It isn't so much blame as it is being accountable, if Martin had said yes I did cut funding,and therefore this is a crisis which I should have dealt with but did not, I would have had more respect for him. I don't appreciate being made a fool and I believe the Liberals have done that to Canadians just as Mulroney did in the past.

    They need to realize that we aren't just stupid slaves working for their enjoyment, filling up their retirement coffers, and paying them to squander our money. Our money is meant to be used for our benefit, to not have homelessness, or poverty or hunger in this country, anywhere. They need to be accountable and that means taking responsibility not just praise because they say they balanced the budget, that is not enough!

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  11. Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:04 am
    Mental illness is also a great contributor to homelessness and a society can also be judged by how much it allows people to harm themselves. Individual freedom should be a paramount consideration in our society, but there are many people who really do not know what is in their best interest and it is up to us to be 'our brothers keeper' to a certain extent, even if that means they are denied the rights of a full rational agent in our society. This is an unfortunate reality, but it doesn't do anyone any good when the homeless end up in prison when they could have been cared for otherwise.

  12. Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:50 pm
    Just like to point out that the line in your signature is incorrectly attributed to the Barenaked Ladies when in fact is was part of a live performance of our "National Anthem" by Captain Tractor. I have an mp3 if u like ;)

  13. Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:11 pm
    Yes mental illness is a terrible burden, and with cuts to the health system as well as affordable housing where will these people go? Who helps them to take their medication, to eat properly, bathe and support them,especially if they don't have family? Also even those who do have family, sometimes that family can't help them, they don't understand the illness or worse they are part of the problem, or also suffer with other illness or financial hardships. We are a rich country, we shouldn't be leaving anyone on the street!

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  14. by L. Ray
    Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:46 pm
    Rose, <br><br> If Martin had not demolished the law (the name slips my mind at the moment; I think it's the Canda Assistance Act) Campbell in BC could not throw people on welfare on the streets cutting off welfare in BC. <br><br> Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it is only three years out of every five that somebody able to work (who nevertheless might not find a job) can collect welfare. <br><br> Also, as has been observed by somebody else, Martin cut transfer payments to the provinces substantially. <br><br> He also is responsible for reducing Ottawa's part of health care cost from 50 percent to (I believe) 15 percent reducing provincial revenues and thus giving reactionary governments the 'excuse' to cut social services. <br><br> Martin exempted the Barbadoes when he revised the law underlying tax havens. Are you surprised that a lot of his ships are registered there? <br><br> I am redhot that somebody who doesn't pay taxes (or at least on a substantial part of his income) in Canada wants to be Prime Minister. <br><br> I consider myself on the left (whatever this may mean exactly) but I find myself in the perverse position that I'm hoping for a small majority (hopefully only a couple of seats) for Harper since the NDP -for which I will be voting, Libby Davies is my MP- can't possibly hope to form a government. (I sure hope I won't be mad as hell at myself for wishing that because I remeber how Brian messed up the who;le country for the benefit of his rich buddies) <br><br> Moe Sihota made an interesting point (and whatever you think of him he's a brilliant political analyst) on RightOn on TheNewVI - a program with Moe, Norm spector and Pia Shandel, the hostess - yesterday. He said-and it's very convincing- that the Liberal scaremongering about the Tories telling people to vote 'strategically' doesn't make nay sense in BC since only the turncoat Ujal Dosanjh has a chance of winning. Otherwise the Liberals are in third place. So strategic voting here means vote for the NDP. <br><br> Mind you, I voted for Libby the last time and I think she's doing a tremendous job in the riding. So I don't see any reason I shouldn't vote for her again. <br><br>



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