Why People Don't Vote?

Posted on Thursday, April 15 at 09:58 by KevinGagnon

ALLAN R. GREGG

THE TREND toward lower voter turnout is like a canary in the mine shaft of Canadian democracy. Over the last 16 years, we have witnessed a 14-per-cent decline in balloting in federal elections. Moreover, the diminishing sense among young people that voting is "essential" suggests that this trend will continue.

When electors cease to go to the polls, it weakens the foundations of democracy because they are tacitly saying:
-- the individual has little impact on, or say in, our national affairs;
-- the welfare of the collective has little bearing on individual well-being; and
-- individual well-being can flourish (or flounder) independent of decisions initiated through legislative democracy.

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  1. by avatar Milton
    Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:45 pm
    I have friends that refuse to vote, that have never voted in an election (30 years worth of elections). They tell me "Why should I vote for someone who does not espouse and does not represent my views"? To which I respond that the idea is to remove the current inept government and replace it with one that is less inept (or corrupt if you prefer). To which they reply "If I vote for someone that I don't want in office to get someone I respect even less out of office, all I am doing is putting my stamp of approval on this farce." To which I reply that not voting is also putting your stamp of approval on the farce and the idea of voting out those we currently dislike the most is that by doing so we rock the boat and if we rock it enough we can change its course.
    The only good ideas in the article was to have more referendums and proportional representation. IMHO the only idea that will get more people to vote is passing bills by referendum. We have the technology so lets put it to use. Then the corporations would have to buy at least half the voting populations votes instead of a handful of MP's or MLA's votes.

  2. Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:32 pm
    If you are reading this and you are from the Greater Vancouver Area come on out to "Screw The Vote!" to be held in Surrey and Vancouver on April 19th and 20th.

    The CBC is conducting interviews and the such to examine this very topic - among youth that is.

    If you are interested in coming out and making your views heard - email us at screwthevote@canadiandemocraticmovement.ca

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    If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

  3. Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:52 pm
    Democracy has always been an illusion anyway. It is no wonder people don't vote, and why should they? What we've got in this country are political parties clearly not intersted in Canadian interests or the interests of Canadians.

    The Progressive-Conservatives sold us out to the Americans with NAFTA (the new Conservatives aka Alliance aka Reform want to BE Americans). The Liberals are selling us out to the globalist captialists and the NDP are busy pretending that long discredited international socialism is still alive and well.

    Then there are the lobby groups who pretend to represent the interests of the people they lobby for, but in actuality they lobby for their own bureaucratic self survival.

    The people themselves are too apathetic and far to uninformed, even illinformed to have any ordinary citizen's opinion considered to be relevant to most issues. Instead, law makers ultimately resort to self appointed experts who have their own agenda and are most probably in somebody's pocket anyway.

    Democracy simply does not work. Thomas Aquinas once called democracy a form of bad government where the people themselves become the tyrannt.

    Canada needs to reform intself into a viable autocractic meritocracy where the law of the land is to do what's right for the nation and the people.

    As far as democracy goes, I vote NO!

  4. Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:17 pm
    Well, it is time we go beyond merely voting, and organize something like a country wide general strike! Now, nobody will listen to me, i`m just a nobody, but some of the high profile people in this country who have a voice, and greater access to getting heard, who claim to love this country, MUST come forward and get the ball rolling!!! Just talking about it, or just writing books about it, IS NOT ENOUGH!!! Do these people really love Canada as they say? Or do they just want their books to make money for themselves? Even people like Buzz Hargrove sit and do nothing. I e-mailed him once (well, a couple times) telling him that we need to organize a nation-wide general strike in order to get government to listen. He had NO answer for this. So ,as little ol` me tries to rally the passion, some people listen, but most laugh, because, after all, WHO AM I ? But Some high profile people, who claim to love Canada, must step forward to start this!!!

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    Dave Ruston

  5. Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:05 am
    In an article on the recent Russian election, BBC included the following sidebar:

    RUSSIA VOTES FOR PUTIN

    1 Vladimir Putin: 71.2%
    2 Nikolai Kharitonov: 13.7%
    3 Sergei Glazyev: 4.1%
    4 Irina Khakamada: 3.9%
    5 Against all: 3.5%
    6 Oleg Malyshkin: 2%
    7 Sergei Mironov: 0.8%

    #5 implies that Russians actually had a "None of the above" option they could choose. That would be a big improvement on not voting.

  6. Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:50 am
    Anon,

    You've pretty much scripted life in Canada on a nutshell.
    To be fair, the porta thoughties (stink tanks) I ridicule are really no different than the lobbying NGOs in that they each have an agenda. And they all are a symptom of our craving for a people driven government.

  7. Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:08 am
    Dave,

    I absolutely agree with you on the issue of the I heart Canada, media savvy bunch not stepping up. But that may just be a sign that it's time for the Dave Ruston and the ordinary I'm a nobody Canadians to take control. I'm always wondering where are the intellectuals in Canada and the US? Why aren't they speaking out against the imbecillian policies of these governments? Our media has to accept some of this responsibility as well.

    CBC is supposed to be our public broadcaster yet you never see Maude Barlow, Mel Hurtig, or Larry Gordon (FairVoteCanada) being interviewed on Politics.

  8. Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:46 pm
    Well, I wouldn't go that far. A "people drive" government runs the very great risk of being subjected to the tyranny of the majority, and the majority rarely does the right thing.

    It is not more democracy that we need in this country, but less. The current fad of pushing more and more democratic reform onto our institutions will only lead to more division and caos. The more opinion you allow on any given issue, the more difficult it becomes to arrive at a solution.

    Ultimately, the more democratic you make the system the less effective it becomes and the more those charged with making decisions will be forced into the arms of the special interests, those being the large corporations, the unions, the lobby groups and the self appointed experts.

    The feelings of western alienation will not be solved by an elected Senate or proportional representation in the House of Commons. The Maritimes will not cease to feel neglected and oppressed by Ottawa merely as a result of transfering more power to the provinces, and of course there is nothing anyone could ever do to stop the elites in Quebec from trying to force its way out of Confederation.

    It is NOT democracy that we need but strong leadership. That is certainly not what we have in the current crop of political leaders. They all lack vision and a true understanding of where Canada needs to go in the future. Our current leaders are committed to more of what we are already doing, which is reducing our standard of living and enduring the dictates of Big Business (or Big Labour in the case of the irrelevant NDP) as if they alone understand how everything is to be properly done.

    I suspect, however, that our political leaders already know this. They WANT a weak Canada so that Big Business can have a free hand (Liberals), or make it easier for Canada to join the US (Converatives) or become a socialist utopia (NDP). These guys have no interest in a strong Canada because it gets in the way of their own particular ideology.

    Canada does not need this sort of thing. It needs strong, practical, workable, nationalist Canada-centric leadership.

  9. Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:56 am
    Yeah, true enough, 4Canada. I guess freedom is never a completed project. It must continuously be amplified, moulded, and forged by the truly skilled craftspeople - us!

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    Dave Ruston

  10. Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:01 am
    well statists, what are you going to do now? no one to vote to give your little porta stinko flag credibility. The internet is killing Ottawa, slowly but surely. Guess the percentage of men 18-34 who are habitual users of the internet? 30%, 50%, 75%?? well, it's 75%. So long Mr. Gregg, your marketing scumbags can't get there tentacles around this juicy target group any longer. Maybe it's time to pickup a wrench or screwdriver and get a real job.

  11. Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:08 pm
    Careful now. Truth is a hate crime in Canada.

  12. Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:34 pm
    Yeah, but if you screw voting and don`t get involved, then the ruling classes, be it wealthy Canadians, Americans, Arabs, Catholics, or Jews, will assume that they can continue with corporate fascism more steadfastly. To me, this is a class war, not a religious or racial one. Don`t forget- there are Jews who are also opposed to this globalizaton thing. And yes, the powers that be see freedom of speech as a threat. That`s why I although I disagree with your thought that it`s just a Jewish thing. But I do defend your right to say it. But how do we stop hate, and blame, and terror, and prejudice? By education, social and economic justice, and discussions like this! Just like my rants about US imperialism. We must also see that many Americans are against the actions of the US political- industrial- military complex!

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    Dave Ruston



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