[Armageddon]

[QUOTE BY= dino]<br /> Nationalizing oil would actually benefit all CANADIANS.[/quote]<br /> This can be done provincially.<br /> Each province has its own special resource that can be sold to bring in billions. Alberta, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan with their oil (and Saskatchewan's uranium), B.C. with its own natural gas, and Quebec with its hydroelectricity. I don't know about the rest of the provinces, considering I haven't heard much about their resources beyond Newfoundland's own oil resources, but I just the Maritimes has many resources. If each province developed its resources to the fullest, prosperity would come. It won't however, if you suck one province dry for what you believe to be the "benefit" of all Canadians.<br /> <br /> [quote]When Pierre Trudeau did it,it was poorly done and and poorly defended. Every country with lots of oil has it nationalized like Norway, Mexico,Venezuela and Bolivia is now nationalizing there gas industry so that it benefits the PEOPLE. While we have no National Energy Program the United States has one with OUR OIL!!![/quote]<br /> However, you can't do it. Why? Resourc provincial matter, not a federal, and should stay as it is. See, consider Alberta as Norway. Alberta produces the oil, and does what with the money? Gives partially to equalization payments. However, the rest should stay where? Where it's produced! Does Norway give its oil revenue to other countries? Indirectly, no. It keeps it for its Petroleum Fund, which is what Alberta should be doing with its own revenues through the Heritage fund. <br /> Also, the countries you mentioned besides Norway are just developing countries with governments trying to gain more revenue in their pockets. Mexico's government is highly corrupt on any level, and Venezuela pretty much only has oil, so I would well imagine the government there would want to control it any degree to gain some sort of revenue, since I doubt it could get much from the people. Also, Bolivia is just as corrupt as well, so it wouldn't be unreasonable again to assume the government just wants more revenue to pocket.<br /> As for Norway, oil is one of their few resources, besides hydroelectricity and iron. I do however admire that they do in fact use such revenue to help the people. However, they do demonstrate that they should be the ones keeping their oil, just like Alberta should continue doing. Our system obviously is just as good, since it has produced surpluses. Don't fix a system that isn't broken.<br /> <br /> <br /> [quote]But since your from Alberta it doesn't surprise me why you have a mentality of me me me first everyone else second.[/quote]<br /> Such a typical stereotype of Albertans. Of course, we Albertans are greedy bastards and want nothing more then to screw with the rest of Canada. Sure, the only way you can make us contribute money for equalization payments is by keeping a gun to our head. It sure isn't because we're generous.<br /> Done with the bs? Because I am. <br /> Look at how much Albertans provide for Canada already with equalization payments. Then try to tell me with a straight face why you want to screw with something that is ours. <br /> Don't punish your fellow citizens for their generosity. Reward them with equal sharing. That's a lesson you should learn. However, I doubt you will.<br /> <br /> [quote]You should start asking yourself why ALberta sells its oil to United States cheaper then Alaska? Why on earth doesn't Ralph Klein sell it at the same price Alaska is selling it to America? Because America put inside NAFTA that Canada isn't allowed to sell oil to America any higher then it charges Canadians. Our pathetic politicians agreed to this and didn't even view it as a threat to sovereignty. Wouldn't it be nice if we were out of NAFTA and could actually as an independent country choose who we want to sell oil too and at choose the price?[/quote]<br /> This...is irrelevant to the conversation. Important perhaps in another thread, for another time. However, the discussion right now is about equalization payments, and how certain provinces want Alberta to contribute more then it already does.<br /> Though, I do agree with your sentiments at the bottom of that part.<br /> <br /> <br /> [quote]I also agree that Quebec should share it hydro industry it doesn't have to be run by the government but money of resources all across Canada should go to Ottawa and Ottawa gives it back to the provinces per capita. [/QUOTE]<br /> I was more or less just criticizing Quebec's desire to gain more from Alberta without putting its own resources in. They can keep theirs, as long as we keep ours. <br /> As for your last point, please, just let the provinces go their way. Let the equalization payments continue for sure, so as to provide equality for all Canadians, but don't make it absolute. Provinces like Alberta should prosper with their oil resources so as to shine as a beacon for provinces like Saskatchewan and Newfoundland that have yet to fully develop their own resources.

[Brent Swain]

Fairness doesn't consist of allowing some to live lives of gluttony while others starve. Alberta rednecks only believe in fairness as long as it benefits the.Fairness is distributing wealth more equally, taboo in the minds of the greedy. Unfair? Not likely.<br /> Brent

[Dr Caleb]

[QUOTE BY= Brent Swain] Fairness doesn't consist of allowing some to live lives of gluttony while others starve.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Quite right. After all, Albertan seniors have the lowest standard of living of all Albertans. We should cut funding to them, so Quebec can go further in debt. How greedy of us.<br /> <br /> Alberta only has a few schools that are closed because they are unfit for human habitation. The kids can do without them. How shortsighted of us. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'> <br /> <br /> Please. I really don't understand this attitude. It's not like the streets are paved with gold, and every one drives chauffered limos. Our schools and healthcare are underfunded, our seniors took the brunt of cuts in the 90's. Now it's time to put that funding back, and we're greedy bastards for wanting to do just that?<br /> <br /> I also really don't understand why non-Albertans give a rats ass about Ralph. You didn't, nor can you vote for him. We keep voting for him because we think he's doing a good job. Why do you care? Seriously? <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'>

[Armageddon]

[QUOTE BY= Brent Swain] Fairness doesn't consist of allowing some to live lives of gluttony while others starve. Alberta rednecks only believe in fairness as long as it benefits the.Fairness is distributing wealth more equally, taboo in the minds of the greedy. Unfair? Not likely.<br /> Brent [/QUOTE]<br /> As soon as you claimed that others "starve" I knew you were talking bs. Let's face it, there are probably a handful of people who starve in Canada. Why? Probably couldn't get a job, and they probably couldn't get a job because they didn't think too much of their future. <br /> Tell me, isn't greed really desiring more of something you don't have? <br /> I understand fairness is sharing, which we all know Albertans do the most. Do you give $2,400 for equalization payments? I doubt you do, because only Albertans give such. Try telling us we're not generous. Please, I'm serious, do tell us how we don't contribute as much as Ontario to other provinces. I doubt you will be able to, without sounding like a jackass. Face it, treating other provinces like they're your own piggy banks isn't the solution.