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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:24 pm
 


Yes, it should be. <br /> <br />Non violent protest, such as placards, is non physical. Talking; yelling; display of signs and posters. As soon as you beat someone over the head with you placard, it's common assault. <br /> <br />If you physically deliver your 'message' whether it's whacking someone with a sign, or 'entarting', it must be kept as a crime. If you don't draw a line somewhere, burning cars and looting become valid forms of 'protest'. <br /> <br />Just my 2 pesitas. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:57 pm
 


I agree with Dr. Caleb on this one. Absolutely no physical contact should be allowed. If it became legal to do this where would the line be drawn? Could I hurl anything at a politician as long as it causes no injury? <br /> <br /><p>What about vandalism? Can I hurl rocks at the parliament buildings? <br /></p>Besides, I find throwing pies etc. very juvenile. And I'm sure the majority of canadians do as well. Its counterproductive.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:47 pm
 


[QUOTE BY= arc628] Besides, I find throwing pies etc. very juvenile. And I'm sure the majority of canadians do as well. Its counterproductive.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />And waste of a potentially good pie. <br />



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:47 pm
 


We should keep car-burning as a strictly recreational activity, that's for sure. As a form of protest it's largely ineffective and, because most protests these days have at least something to do with environmentalism, contradictory. <br /> <br />Pie throwing though? It isn't exactly a peaceful act, but does somebody who whacks Ralph Klein with a pie be treated the same as somebody who tries to throttle him? Perhaps there should be some sort of lesser charge than assault for entartagers.


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Am glad to see some common sense in this discussion. You probably all realize that this form of democracy originates from the Francophone side and I can sense some ressentment over the cultural/political imperialism that this brings up. Perhaps more cultural differences too. <br /> <br />Can you imagine if the ROC legislated pie throwing as a criminal activity while Quebec allowed it under "le status particulier"? This would be a much bigger story than the CRTC/CHOI censorship. And what about mooning a public official? Where would this stop? You give them one thing and they want the moon! <br /> <br />To resolve potentially an other great source of division, I would add this to my list of Canadian Sovereingty items: should we decriminalize entartage? It would put it all in perspective, something badly needed in DD. <br /> <br />BTW, I did not mean to undermine the Anarchy thread of Calumny <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/cool.gif' alt='Cool'> <br />



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:52 pm
 


And what would constitute a pie? Bannana Creme only? What if the recipient of said pie has bannana allergies? <br /> <br />Don't even get me started on Tourtiere. You could break someone's nose with that! <br /> <br />(I can't find where you hijacked the Anarchy thread Gaulois. Did you fly it to Cuba?) <br />



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Reverend, depends who's in the burning car. <br /> <br />Keep in mind if that entartage was legalized, you'd just be creating a bureaucratic nightmare, given that protocol wise the size and flavours of the pie would inevitably have to differ depending on the office of the personage receiving the pie, e.g., PM pie would have to be twelve inch, Minister 10 inch, MP 8 inch, etc. Not to mention the infighting between federal, provincial and municipal levels over the pie sizes and flavours. <br /> <br />Then you've got the inevitable fall-out from the dim-bulb anglo who mistakenly uses a pie prescribed for the Ontario Premier, e.g., lime, on the Quebec premier. <br /> <br />All in all, it could be a pie-tiful situation. <br /> <br /> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/lol.gif' alt='Laughing Out Loud'>



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:23 pm
 


Maybe we could each province to pick one pie that residents of their province are allowed to commit entartage with. Saskatchewan residents would only be allowed to use saskatoon pies, for instance. That would allow each province to use entartage as a way to promote their province's culture.


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And what about the cultural subsidies involved? You would not want the culture to go to mush. Tourtière would be reserved for the heavy weight cases. I note our radical fundamentalists (of the various kinds) are all keeping quiet on this matter and perhaps consulting the party line. I personally don't think the public officials of any kind would like these discussions or the matter elevated to a referendum status. They would try to hijack this for sure. <br /> <br />I also note that Reverend Blair has lost all of its stars. Not sure about the new release and its buttons.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:39 pm
 


Sounds good Reverend. The Alberta 'cow-pie' might go a long way towards keeping provincial politicians in mind.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:51 pm
 


My concern is that a politician could be allergic to an ingredient in the pie. This could possibly even lead to a fatality. Now I know what you're thinking, "what's one more politician?" but still...



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:00 pm
 


Just have to be part of the job description, e.g., 'duties may require contact with peanut, banana etc. products - enter at your own risk'. <br /> <br />Why did that vision of an Alberta politician claiming they were abducted by a couple of large 'lemon meringues' to cover their drinking binge come to mind.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:31 pm
 


In all honesty, I misread the thread title at first glance , thinking 'entartage' was 'entourage'. <br /> <br />I was puzzled at why this would be considered, other than to inconvenience rap singers, boxers, basket ball players and the like. <br /> <br />Talk about having pie on one's face.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:43 pm
 


[QUOTE BY= lesouris] My concern is that a politician could be allergic to an ingredient in the pie. This could possibly even lead to a fatality. Now I know what you're thinking, "what's one more politician?" but still...[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />I would love to see the history books talk about a leader who was assassinated by pie.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:55 pm
 


[QUOTE BY= Calumny] <br />All in all, it could be a pie-tiful situation. <br /> <br /> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/lol.gif' alt='Laughing Out Loud'> [/QUOTE] <br /> <br />[QUOTE BY= Calumny] <br />Talk about having pie on one's face.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />You just take the cake. <br />



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