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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 8:40 am
 


If you can't feel guilt and remorse for the wiping of almost an entire people off the face of the earth, I want you to continue to remember and hold on to that sentiment when the table turns.

Not that I will take the least bit of delight in it, but you got about nine years left.





PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:29 pm
 


I'd say a human tradition.





PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:01 am
 


Excellent response Janis! Thanks for the facts. It pains me to no end that this always ends up being about white people, and how we have created some 'white guilt'. It's actually about the murder of my ancestors. As Janis states, this isn't anything but the facts. I am so sick of hearing about how we need to 'just let it go'. If 95 percent of white males were wiped out by females, you think we should 'just let it go' because some people may experience guilt? Ha! I experience the entire loss of a culture, as well as all the beautiful things that culture could bring to the rest of the world.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:18 am
 


Hey, Stargazer. It always makes me sad when I tell something factual and it is misconstrued into something else. But, it is like my family. After my son was murdered for protesting Reagan's brutal treatment of Indians in Central America, I realized I could no longer live in white man's society, and I came to the Reservation. Here I found the real people that Damon was defending, suffering and almost on the verge of extinction, without the world really knowing who they are or were. My own family could not understand this, and I was disowned and disinherited. So, I know that very well-meaning people become very upset when hearing the Indian's truth. Be that as it may, I will go on revealing this truth, the Lakota's truth and way of life, and how they are suffering, as long as there is breath in my body. Like an old philosopher told me so many years ago, "You now live for two. Make it count."


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:38 am
 


I don't believe in white guilt either, and I'm not white. I think the whole "sins of the ancestors" line is ridiculous especially considering the fact that chances are, if we could trace our line far back enough, our ancestors were likely bitter enemies of each other, or that we are indirectly the product of a rape.

PEOPLE today though, no matter what colour or nationality they are, should observe the horrors committed by the people of the past, and strive to avoid them. Unfortunately, most didn't. While there was a strange feeling in the back of my head when I read about 911, Abu Ghraib, and the Russian Beslan school siege, I wasn't too surprise either. I wish I never grew to expect things like this.

As for the Indians/Aboriginals, it depends on which tribe you are talking about, and even within those tribes there is variation person from person oh how brutal or how gentle in spirit they are just like it's still is with people today. I know for sure that the Aboriginals are definitely not peaceful because when the first Europeans arrive, they formed alliance with certain tribes to fight against the other tribes. However, I also believe that how the Europeans mistreated the natives is to be held to higher criticism than how the natives mistreated each other. For one thing, the Europeans at the time were supposed to be more civilized. The Europeans who arrived had books, literature, education, philosophers, and the Europeans who arrived also had experienced a part in history in which THEY were the oppressed, so shouldn't they have known better?

Just as it were with the civilized Europeans then, Americans of today ought to know better than Saddam Hussin or the oppressed Iraqi, how to treat a human being.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:54 am
 


I didn't think that Canada should only help America expecting gratefulness, it's only human decency after all. However, being aknowledged would be nice, and as much as I hate to admit it, as a Canadian, anti-Canadian remarks from south of the border tend to slide off me, but shouts out make me happy in a the popular dude just winked at me kinda way...

Not aknowledging is one thing, but for those who turned on Canada after the Iraq thing, accusing us of never doing anything is a bit much.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:18 pm
 


Sitting Bull once said "What have we done that the white people want us to stop? We have been running up and down this country but they follow us from one place to another.
I believe this was the question on every native americans lips over the last 600 years and still is.The persecution still goes on and it's about time it stopped.


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