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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:47 am
 


You may want to change the rating. I posted that and forgot to log in.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:57 am
 


>>asking him how this would work to the benefit of Canadians flying in Canada but outside the major centres<<

Good point.

>Jean Beliveau recently expressed regret that more Canadians do not see more of Canada.<

It seems more Canadians were willing to see Quebec when that province came so close to leaving Canada. Typical Canadian. We wait to the last minute before attempting to remedy our problems.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:09 am
 


The problem is that Canadians aren't from Canada. They're from Ontario, or Quebec, or Newfoundland, or Alberta.<<

That makes them Canadian. We are self centered but that is normal. Eg. my house, my town, my province leading to...My Country. Yes Canadians are proud about their country but sadily its a paranoia from being a neighbour of the US. Canadians are very concerned about being labeled as a yank. The US is so domineering and the center of attention through out the world. Canadians are trying too hard to show that we are not American nor think American.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:52 pm
 


"Canadians are to America, Kiwis are to Australia"

Are you just stopping by on your way to the US? Make sure that you pick up a bone for GWB's lapdog...Mr. Howard.





PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:25 pm
 


Australians are men with bark on. Americans stir coffee with their thumbs.

Kiwis and Canuks are limp wristed pommy bastards.





PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:27 pm
 


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:45 pm
 


You must be jealous & hateful of the US, you must be a coward, you must be arrogant, you must be hateful & spiteful. You must drink alot. Did I miss anything?


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While some of what you say is true, it is hardly fair to apply that to the majority of Canadians. Many Canadians don't have the money to travel very far.

With some 80% of Canadians living within a few hours of the border and many Americans cities there for them when they arrive it is more of destination than driving to the next province. Canada is a big country when you think of the population centres stretched out West-East like they are. Yet North-South we are more connected. It is also cheaper to fly to Vegas or San Diego from Vancouver and Calgary than it is to fly to Toronto.

Ask a Canadian if they would like to see their country (money not withstanding) and I bet you would get an overwhelming majority saying they would want that vs going South.

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Your comment has been rated "very bad" without any help from me and I would agree with you that that is one of the USAmerican ways of identifying a Canadian. Buy what's funny about that is in all my travels around the world people assume I'm an USAmerican first, likely because I'm white speak english without a British accent and am outnumbered by US travellers. In Fiji once I met an USAmerican that wanted to see my passport because he didn't believe I was a Canadian. I had the feeling he thought I was too embarassed to admit I was a US citizen or something. It was one of the strangest encounters I've ever had travelling. I never obliged him with the proof, I didn't feel the need to. Canadian arrogance I guess?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:31 am
 


Please take the next boat back to that wasteland you call Australia.





PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:34 am
 


I hope you didn't embarrass us in the process with all that Canadian stuff. You know how self centered and smug we are.





PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:54 am
 


Canada has "Remembrance Day" and the USA has "Veterans Day". Two celebrations for the same event. I think "being Canadian" ties in with this difference.

The name used in Canada identifies us as Canadians, who were much longer in both World Wars, who "remember" what happened, not necessarily boasting of the people who served.

The name used in the USA seems to be so human-centered, so boastful, so arrogant.

Remembrance Day" is an improvement of the original name "Armistice Day", while "Veterans Day" is not.





PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:00 pm
 


If you were longer in both wars, then you are the real war mongers. Good thing you are not a world power.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:47 pm
 


A short list:

- differing views on the role of government (whether or not the respective governments are playing those roles)
- more emphasis on regional differences in Canada, good or bad
- differing ideas about liberty vs equality; Americans value personal liberty more highly, while Canadians value equality more highly
- different political model; the Canadian system has less concentrated political power, while the US system has greater powers set against each other as checks and balances
- independence gained through peaceful means; foreign policy since that time reflects this.

This is a short list, but you'll note that it doesn't involve any of the stereotypes. It's a serious question, and deserves a serious format.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:21 pm
 


Less concentrated power in Canada something to be proud of? Are you mad?

Absolute power is concentrated solely in the Prime Minister. He determines election dates and appoints the Senate, the Supreme Courth, the RCMP, the Governor General, and Solicitor General. Not to mention the control and influences he wields over the bureaucracy. This is why Canada is more like a South American banana-style republic than a modern day western democracy. When it comes to government we have more in common with Russia than we do with the United States. Canada is not a democracy and never has been.

And Confederation is the problem. Provincialism is what is tearing this country apart and if Canada breaks up it will largely be due to this. There is no balance, Ottawa dishes out billions of dollars to the provinces with out asking to see how it will be spent in the first place. Condfederation leads to provincialism, which leads to regionalism which, for example leads to Quebecers defining themselves as Quebecers rather than being Canadiam, and the same can be said from coast to coast, in any province.

There is no balance between Ottawa and the provinces. Witness for example Paul Martin opening the piggy bank to a childish and immature premier of Newfoundland earlier this year. But what do you expect from a Liberal?


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