[Jesse]

[QUOTE BY= dbaker] <br />the non-organic componets of the excrement can be disposed of using transmutation, a process developed by Professor Brown (deceased) <br /><b>which cuts the half life down from 100,000 years to 19 seconds. </b> <br />[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Transmutation... isn't that where alchemists turn lead into gold? <br /> <br />[QUOTE BY= Dr Caleb] <br />In this forum, we obey the laws of nuclear chemistry. I'm pretty sure a half-life is a half-life, and cannot be changed. <br />[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />I agree; such "miracle" transformations are generally based on wishful thinking rather than fact. Please do not post more on the subject here; it's terribly off-topic and of no interest to most people here. You may want to look for an alternative-energy forum where your ideas can get the discussion they so rightly deserve.

[Dr Caleb]

[QUOTE BY= Wraun] I have been following the news at http://www.pureenergysystems.com for quite some time now but had not heard of this company before.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Cool site. It rather explains Prof. Grey's work rather well. I'm still a bit of a skeptic, but I think by making all documentation open, others will be able to verify or debunk these generators. <br />

[Guest]

Missfits. <br />Lets take a look at my credentials, then yours? <br /> <br />1) Speaker at the University of Calgary Alt Energy 2003 Conference <br /> <br />2) Solicited evaluation of the Earth Charter by the Earth Council prior to presentation at The Hague, and subsequent endorsement by the UN Security Council. <br /> <br />3) Solicited evaluation of the NAFTA Environmental Agreement, by the University of Southern California Global Peace and Conflict Studies. <br /> <br />4) Presentation to the Nafta Council for Environmental Cooperation (CEC) <br /> <br />5) Presentation to the Atomic Energy Control Board re: Deep Rock Disposal <br /> <br /> <br />From: "Office of the Premier PREM:EX" <br /> <br />To: "'dennisbaker2003@hotmail.com'" <br /> <br />Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:56:05 -0700 <br /> <br />Thank you for your follow-up email. <br /> <br />As you have requested, I am sending the email that you reference to your new <br /> <br />address: <br /> <br />Thank you for your email. <br /> <br />You are to be commended for all of the hard work and initiative you have <br /> <br />invested in the development of your idea for an alternative energy system. <br /> <br />If you are referencing the need for information about investment capital <br /> <br />programs to assist in the establishment of a business that is based on your <br /> <br />idea, please visit the Programs and Services page of the Ministry of <br /> <br />Competition, Science and Enterprise Web Site: <br /> <br />http://www.cse.gov.bc.ca/Subwebs/BusInv/Business_Services/Investment_Capital <br /> <br />/default.htm <br /> <br />Again, thank you for writing. I wish you all the best in your future <br /> <br />endeavours. <br /> <br />Sincerely, <br /> <br />Gordon Campbell <br /> <br />Premier <br />

[Guest]

and this........ <br />Dennis, <br /> <br />Thank you for your wonderful suggestion for a science demonstration, to <br />explore how the melting of the polar ice caps might effect the rotation of <br />the earth. <br /> <br />We'll definitely discuss this at the various museums where we develop <br />hands-on science demonstrations related to global climate change. <br /> <br />Exciting, real world demonstrations, based on sound science, are just what <br />we like to bring to the public. It's great to communicate with you, as a <br />fellow explorer of ways we can bring science alive for kids, teens and <br />everyone. <br /> <br />Let us know if you are interested in working further on such projects. <br />Are you a teacher yourself, or have you worked with your local <br />museums/science centers? <br /> <br />Yours, <br /> <br />James Callahan <br />james@climatechangeeducation.org <br /> <br />

[Jesse]

dbaker, those are very nice credentials. It doesn't make your post any more on-topic. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/razz.gif' alt='Razz'>

[Dr Caleb]

Interesting credentials. <br /> <br />Dr Caleb <br />Computer Engineering, University of Alberta. Honours in Physics and Mathematics. <br />Computer Engineering Technology, NAIT. Specialty in Power Supply design and effeciency. <br /> <br />more importantally WRT this thread: <b>Moderator, Vive Le Canada.</b> <br /> <br />As Jesse pointed out, discussion of "Human Excrement + Nuclear waste = Hydrogen" is offtopic in this thread. There is another thread who's topic is exactally that. The topic in this thread is "new methods for effecient generation of electricity". <br /> <br />As I pointed out, without substantive links in your thread "Human Excrement + Nuclear waste = Hydrogen" it won't generate much discussion. <br />

[Guest]

I am humbled.... <br /> <br />I will redirect to the correct post. <br /> <br />I guess I was havin a bad day. <br /> <br />One link exists the other has been terminated by the US department of energy.the existing link is posted in the correct location, please lets have a chat. <br /> <br />Your Friend <br />Dennis

[Kory Yamashita]

[QUOTE BY= Dr Caleb] [QUOTE BY= Kory Yamashita] <br />But it's NOT a SOURCE of energy. It's simply a highly efficient motor. <br />[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />If you watch the videos in my link above, in order, they put 100w on the input side, and get 300w out of the generator. <br /> <br />Assuming we can believe these tests - what do you think? <br />[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Sorry to take so long to reply, but it IS that time of year. And this thread needs to be on topic. <br /> <br />Dr. Caleb, you asked what I think of a device that takes 100W of input and gives 300W of output power? <br /> <br />Well, IF it can be believed, then it simply means that the Law of Conservation of Energy no longer applies. And heck... even atomic/nuclear energy satisfies that law (thanks, Einstein). <br /> <br />I can believe that this type of varying magnetic field could produce a highly efficient motor. But a claim of 300% efficiency is a bit hard for me to swallow.

[Dr Caleb]

[QUOTE BY= Kory Yamashita] <br /> <br />Well, IF it can be believed, then it simply means that the Law of Conservation of Energy no longer applies. And heck... even atomic/nuclear energy satisfies that law (thanks, Einstein). <br /> <br />I can believe that this type of varying magnetic field could produce a highly efficient motor. But a claim of 300% efficiency is a bit hard for me to swallow.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Is using a long lever to allow a 100kg person to move a 300kg mass against the Law of the Conservation of energy? That's all this system does, use a small magnetic field to do the work of a larger magnetic field. <br /> <br />I agree, it is counter-intuitive, until you do the math behind the physics. <br /> <br />

[Kory Yamashita]

Doc, that's not an accurate analogy. The lever arm doesn't break the law of conservation of energy. For mechanical work, Work = Force * Distance. The great equalizer is still work (ie: if a lever halves the force required to move something, the trade off is that the distance will be required to double - thus, the energy input into the system is the same as the work output - for the sake of argument, the lever's efficiency is (Work In)/(Work Out)=100%.) <br /> <br />However, for this motor, we don't even need to look at how it works to see that it defies the laws of physics. What the web site's author is claiming is an output of 300W for an input of 100W. Regardless of what happens in the middle (ie: the actual design), that suggests an efficiency of 300W/100W=300%. <br /> <br />Maybe this is one of those cases of the site's author misinterpreting the scientist's actual words.

[Dr Caleb]

dbaker, your offtopic post was deleted. Keep your posts on topic, or this will continue to happen. <br /> <br />[QUOTE BY= Kory Yamashita] Doc, that's not an accurate analogy. <br /> <br />Maybe this is one of those cases of the site's author misinterpreting the scientist's actual words.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />It is accurate! I know by now I sound like I'm on cheap drugs, but it doesn't defy the laws of physics. My above post is is a reasonable analogy, because what this system exploits is the mechanical advantage of magnetic attraction. <br /> <br />On a firmly mounted wheel, you have a series of attached permanent magnets. Around the perimiter, small electromagnets. Turn on an electromagnet, and it will attract the permanent magnet. Turn off the electromagnet at the proper time, and momentum will keep the wheel turning and carry the next permanent magnet in range of the electromagnet. <br /> <br />Now there is a changing magnetic field, caused by the rotation of the permanent magnets. Placing coils in this field will generate electricity. <br /> <br />I've been thinking of something like this for years, since I read Nicola Tesla proposed something like it in one of his books. I cannot see where it does not work, and I've done the math. It is counter intuitive that 100W input will give a 300W output, but I've never found out why it can't work. Everything I've been taught says this is impossible. But the little experience I had with it in Engineering says there is nothing preventing it from working. <br /> <br />And apparently, these guys have found a way to make it work. <br />

[Guest]

blowin smoke over an slightly improved elctric motor, and your personal investment in the stock is that on topic? <br />Dennis Baker