[z_whalen]

Nope it's the H92. Phew. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/biggrin.gif' alt='Big Grin'>

[Stymiest]

thank god i was going to laugh if it was the S-92 <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/surprised.gif' alt='Surprised!'> <br /> <br />maybe the media should start calling it the H-92

[Kory Yamashita]

Whalen and Stymiest, you two both seem to know a lot about military equipment and such. And since it IS a part of the big picture, can you recommend some web sites or other references for military equipment? <br /> <br />I guess some of this information will be classified, but I'd really like some clue as to what exactly our government spends its defense dollars on. <br /> <br />Thanks in advance for any help you can provide <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/smile.gif' alt='Smile'>

[Dr Caleb]

[QUOTE BY= Kory Yamashita] And since it IS a part of the big picture, can you recommend some web sites or other references for military equipment? <br />[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />The Federation of American Scientists is a good start. (fas.org). Janes Defence Weekly is the best (janes.com), but it's subscription only. <br /> <br />

[z_whalen]

Glad you're interested Kory. Here's some of the military sources I use: <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.airforce-technology.com/index.html">Air Force Technology</a> <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.army-technology.com/index.html">Army Technology</a> <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.airforce-technology.com/index.html">Naval Technology</a> <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.strategypage.com/">Strategy Page</a> <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.army.ca">Army.ca</a> <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.forces.gc.ca/">Department of National Defense</a>

[Stymiest]

Good show Whalen <br /> <br />I also recommend <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org">Global Security</a> <br /> <br />DND offers a comprehensive list of our military's acquisitions and assets <br /> <br />I'd also recommend a book called How To Mak War by james dunnigan <br /> <br />If you want too you could go check out some manufacturers websites such as Diemaco which provide Canadian armed forces with its small arms. <br />

[Perturbed]

I think it's a joke that the previosu helicopter deal was cancelled, but reagrding web sites, there are a lot I like, but I particularly like <a href="http://www.hazegray.org">here</a>

[Stymiest]

I believe the EH-101 was a better helicopter and it should of been purchased in the first place. Some people withint the forces still feel the EH-101 is a more capable machine then the H-92. Who knows how much the libs got these for though. <br /> <br />

[z_whalen]

Just for the record, they blew $500 million in cancellation fees when they broke the deal for the EH-101.

[Perturbed]

[QUOTE BY= z_whalen] Just for the record, they blew $500 million in cancellation fees when they broke the deal for the EH-101.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br /> <br />And they're getting what, 28 helicopters now, instead of 50 or something.....not to mention the hundreds of millions spent keeping the Sea Kings in the air....and then Chretien's rage when we bough Cormorant search-and-rescue copters in 1998. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'>

[canuck]

[QUOTE BY= Stymiest] I believe the EH-101 was a better helicopter and it should of been purchased in the first place. Some people withint the forces still feel the EH-101 is a more capable machine then the H-92. Who knows how much the libs got these for though. <br />[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />The H-92 doesn't exist anywhere, but on paper. Isn't it obvious? The military variant of the S-92 was chosen because the CF doesn't have any need for "Cadillac" equipment. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'>

[z_whalen]

Cadillace equipment that we could use. If this is about the Arrow, let it go. We've argued it into the ground.

[Stymiest]

firstly canuck our ships are useless without ASW Helis. They are the eyes and ears of our navy. Secondly making ties with the avro arrow and a sea king replacement is possibly the stupidest thing I have heard all day <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mrgreen.gif' alt='Mr. Green'> <br /> <br />You have made my day Canuck. You know what I like a lot ofd your ideas on this site as far as domestic issues are concerned. Same goes for a lot of policy here but as far as foreign and security is concerned you guys suck <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mrgreen.gif' alt='Mr. Green'> <br /> <br />Well I like Dr. Caleb he gives good input <br /> <br />

[Perturbed]

I still can't believe our government though they'd be "saving face" by buying less capable helicopters for a higher cost from the country that is harassing our industries, rather than a superior, and <b>battle-tested</b> helicopter from Europe. <br /> <br />Crazy, and embarrassing--God these fools are out of touch. <br /> <br />The S-92 has NEVER been created--it's like the friggin' Bomarc Missile. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mad.gif' alt='Angry'>

[Stymiest]

[QUOTE BY= Perturbed] I still can't believe our government though they'd be "saving face" by buying less capable helicopters for a higher cost from the country that is harassing our industries, rather than a superior, and <b>battle-tested</b> helicopter from Europe. <br /> <br />Crazy, and embarrassing--God these fools are out of touch. <br /> <br />I completely agree with you perturbed on this issue. I do admit our forces are trying to cater to the american defence industry but this is the reality when making military deals. Its gone on for so long I doubt it will ever change. <br />The S-92 has NEVER been created--it's like the friggin' Bomarc Missile. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mad.gif' alt='Angry'> [/QUOTE]