Kudos for having spawned this site which appears to contain *more original and well informed opinion per post* than any other such site one recollects having sampled. Many dots and connections of my own independent info-fishing confirmed. Taking it from the top.<br />
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The *Iran gambit* has been approaching a crescendo for a long time, dating back to the fall of the Shah and the installation of Ayatollah [incarnate Allah] Khomenei; the Petrocrats thought they could keep him under control; Richard Helms -- former DCI and the subject of Thomas Powers' book *The Man Who Kept The Secrets* (whom some contend impersonated Howard Hughes after he went into seclusion) -- was the US Ambassador in Iran throughout this period. So there's a *revenge* factor here as well as the petro-dollar *problem*. Similarly, but going back much further, we find Genghis Khan of the Mongolians attacking the early practitioners Mohammedanism who had imposed their thuggish presence in Persia. The Mongols sacked Baghdad in 1065 and opened the way for the Crusades to establish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem (in Palestine). That ancient, deep-rooted anagonism between Persians and Arabs somewhat predisposed the Iranians to tilt slightly toward Israel -- recall that Olllie North's Iran-Contra arms-for-hostages deals with the Iranians went through Israel -- but now it is Israel which is most-threatening to Iran/Persia. The side-switching and back-stabbing of the history of inter-nation and inter-faith relations continues unabated, as if according to some nefarious Divine Plan.<br />
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The *false intelligence* pattern is such a clear fingerprint of Those Who Must Be Obeyed that it almost gets in the way. Seeeig through this *gimme* we discern the fundamentals you indicate: Anglo-American economic hegemony. In his brilliant speech to the assembled world *leaders* at the UN last Thursday (September 15), Venezuelan president HUGO CHAVEZ laid the problem bare, proposed some alternatives and, in a subsequent press conference, is on the record accusing UNCLE SCAM of *state terrorism*. One observes, encourages and sustains the emergence of clear thinking about the choice: Boycott Greenbacks or participate in the looming self-extinction of human evolution -- collectively, all of *us* not only *them* despite their dualistic (rather than tetrahedronal) constructs to the contrary.<br />
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"To understand this true weapon of mass destruction, you must understand the position the American Dollar holds in the world economy." Almost unbelievably true. See John Perkin's 2004 best-seller *Confessions of an Economic Hitman* (or listen to archived audio interviews with him in various places known to search engines).<br />
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The reference to World War Two and its aftermath requires one to state the opinion that this particular sequence of battles in the long-standing war for the world, which is the only feasible reading of the history of the past millennium, is a *naked outbreak* of the nearly 1000-year struggle between, on the winning side, the Knights Templar [Norman-French] and Knights Hospitaller [British] against the Teutonic Knights [Germany]. What gets so confusing is how this *big three* of medieval Europe participates in the takeover of the already collapsing indigenous civilizations in what had come to be called *The Americas* and/or *The New World*. For just one example of the underlying significance of this *ancient history* to current world events, Bush of BAGHAD is a third-generation Bonesman; GEORGE of KUWAIT is a second-generation Bonesman; PRESCOTT of WALL STREET and the PGA arranged most of the US banking and financial transactins with the Teutons. So what's the connection? Twofold: For one, England has been ruled by Hanoverian monarchs since whenever; for two, The Order of Skull & Bones* was implanted on the grounds of YALE University in PRINCEton, New Jersey, USA, in the early 1830s as a new-world *outpost* of a much older GERMANIC *Order* -- of which there seem many but, historically, there is only one which has retained its predominance throughout. And finally, it is essential to also elaborate that these *big three* ALL started early during *The Crusades*; became all-powerful in its own territories in the subsequent centuries; continually influenced, encouraged, and sabotaged the affairs of all their various states and estates -- the truly *trans-national* governance of the planet -- and *invented* and still dominates what we call *banking*. Sometimes they all work together, but more often the pattern seems to be either two against one (as is again the case in the attack on Iraq) or all three embroiled in simultaneous antagonism -- which would surely be the result of a dollar meltdown. But would this be so tragic from the planet's poit of view? After all, the common denominator to pollution load is over production. Just a thought.<br />
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"In fact, two energy exchanges, the International Petroleum Exchange (IPE) in London, and the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX) emerged as the only places to trade energy products and everything was priced in US dollars." This is ultra significant. Talk about *monopoly* -- the game, for real. Recollect that it was crusty old BAPTIST curmudgeon John D. Reckafellow who is on the record a stating that *his God* told him that *competition is a sin*. By the beginning of the 20th century and the simultaneous conversion from Lamp light (kerosene) to Edision light (electric illumination) on the one hand, and the advent of motorized (so-called horseless, or horse-free) carriage creating a huge new market for *gasoline*... The logical conclusion that *whoever controls petro-piracy, controls* -- period -- was already true long ago. The only major *freelancer* in the early 20th century, when the American British Dutch *combine* was securely in place, was Czarist Russia and its Nobel Brothers-financed railway to the Baku oil fields -- and look what happeened to them, and Russia. Any connection? The larger point being that *it's about oil, stoopid* has been correct many times before this latest and most blatant invasion/occupation of MesoPOTamia. No wonder they want to keep us ALL stoopid droolers and Rockeflocking sheeple; otherwise they could ever have gotten away with it this long. All hail self-studies projects and home schoolers!<br />
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I love this bit: "What most governments, but few citizens, know, is that the rush to war was due to Saddam Hussain’s committing the high crime of accepting Euros for oil under the [UN's] 'Oil for Food' program." [Another scandal in progress, which has opened the way for the likes of George Galloway to come and testify to US Senators just how he was *framedy*and to tell them some truth about themselves.] "While oil sales from Iraq were minimal" [at least on the surface] "due to UN sanctions, the act of defiance did not go unnoticed." [The salient bit is confirmation that *governments* DO know; if they decide to stop playing by Pax Americana rules because the *pax* has turned into a *pox* then our knowledge confirms their correctness in so doing.<br />
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Someone or other, somewhere, some time, is bound to challenge you on the authenticity of this assertion. You could cite, for example, Francis A. Boyle, esteemed professor of international law at the University of Illinois, Urbana, who -- after Gulf War I -- led a world-sponsored commission of inquiry into the causes and casualties of that conflagration. It was the collective finding that the United States had intentionally caused, and pre-pre-prepared for, the invasion. Remember, up to that point, from his very coming of age, Saddam has been Their Boy in Baghdad. They proceed to sucker him something beautiful by having US Ambassador at the time, April Glaspie, give the so-called *green light* by asserting that the US *takes no position* in the disputes between democratic, civilized, educated, cultured Iraq and imperial, baronial, backward, slavish Kurwait. The instant Saddam crosses the border to put an end to slant-drilling of Iraqi petro-pools as well as to reclaim a *break-away* province of yore, he gets caught in the trap, humilitated, sanctioned; the Euro option was his openly recourse; he took it; and the rest, as they say, is history -- in the making.<br />
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Meanwhile, Uncle GEORGE of KUWAIT executes almost exactly the same maneuver against once golden boy, Manuel Noriega, and invades/occupies PANAMA with barely a ripple of world concern. We must recognize and credit our native ancestors who realized very early, and put into words, that *Great White Father in Washington speaks with forked-tongue* -- later generalized to include all white men in general, and their women and children. Some insist that money has no color; but the great majority of those happen to be white. Money can no longer be *white* or *green* but must be *world* colored, *univere* colored.<br />
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Way back when, latter '70s or so, Ferdinand Lundberg, Gary Allen, Anthony Sampson, and others had clearly identified OPEC as a stooge or *cat's paw* of the so-called *Seven Sisters* (since renamed by some the *Four Horsemen* given the result of 3rd millennium mergerphrenia). Part of the deal, for sure, included Anglo-American-Dutch *banking* requirements. But what seems to have happened, for both strategic and practical reasons, and as a result of the kind of *inevitable competition* they try to control, these various banking entities all set up shop in the same friendly Arab emirates and sultanates and whatnot, which give the pretense of local ownership but are *feudal grants* no less than those handed out by medieval kings and popes.<br />
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There is discussion of the so-called Marshall Plan in post-ar Germany. Pure economic colonization. The *success* of the World War Two *enemies* should be viewed -- as seems to be the majority view in this forum -- as *the spoils of war* not as any *gift* bestowed on these poor defeated people who deserved every dirty trick that could be played against them? Really, Hitler was Their Boy too, and they suckered him (in a slower and more elaborate age) into the aggressions which finally ignited World War Two. Meanwhile in the *Pacific Theater* (as they called it, giving away their perception that it's a scripted play right there), they have strangled Japan to the point where its only defense is offense. The petrocrats of USA, Britain, Holland, are all over that brilliant ploy. And no sooner do they get Japan to cross the line at Pearl Harbor -- thus becoming a pariah nation in *our* collective eyes -- than they secretly commence the incredible research and development prototype, the so-called *Manhattan* Project, to let the *nukular* genie out of the alchemists' prehistoric bottle. That changes EVERYTHING, and the only nation that DOESN'T seem to get it is that Anglo-American (partially Francophone) nation of North America.<br />
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"The US has been working hard overtly, with its weapons of mass destruction smear campaign, as well as covertly, using its own cadre of terrorists, the M.E.K, to destabilize the Iranian government." Let's halt mid-paragraph this time. You seem well informed of this. Good. A fact which certainly conforms to pattern. Has anyone looked closely at the Ovethrow of Mossadeq in Iran in 1953, a joint British-American operation? If you have, you may recollect that one Kim Roosevelt was one of the ringleaders of that caper, which saw the installation of Shah Reza Palavi on his father's long-vacated British-puppet *peacock* throne. Anyway, the aside here is that it is in his accounts, after the fact, that CIAgent Roosevelt inadvertently coined the term *blowback* and used it generally to mean *unintended consequences*. From this, we may deduce that *Yankee hegemony* extending back over half a century has been aware that **** happens. And they don't seem to care. It is a habit which has become chronic, pathological. UNCLE SLAM is a serial civilization-killer. Don't let one start ranting on a considered opinion that the initial *looting* and *pillaging* of the cultural treasures of Iraq was an instentional, pre-scripted priority of *Shock and Awe*. In the larger picture, these upstart *Orders* from the last millennium are determined to destroy the evidence of their historic collusion with the *parent* organizations, going back to the world before CHRISTianity coagulated into the embers of the the Imperial Roman Empire and ignited the Holy Roman Empire which still burns beneath the surface of most every other firefight. Here is the *umbrella group* for ALL THREE original *Orders* of knightood -- their oaths of allegiance were always to the pontificate of *poplicians* in service to *the Throne* of St. Peter.<br />
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Here we may connect a mega-dot: the name *Peter* comes from and, is a synonym with, *petro* and *petrov*. All mean *rock* -- as in *rock*fellers -- *peroleum* being, literally, "rock oil". This millennial change of state seems to dae from an age when these *knights* master, or harness, both the *mariner* skills of the Scandinavians and the art of *building with rock* -- which catches on only slowly in Europe and at great cost to those who do not know how to do it. This was new technology in an agriculture-based economy. The pirates, who could afford to, built castles and fortresses from which they could organize, terrorize and plunder the peasantry almost at will and wherever they implanted.<br />
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Next sentence: "The USA lacks the troops to invade and Dick Cheney has asked the Pentagon to draft a plan to use nuclear weapons against Iran." Yes, this is certainly reported, and has some history to it. But it is only part of, again, a bigger picture. Look carefully and you will find the US military planning something called *Total Systems* dominance strategy -- of which the *anti-balistic missile* space shield controversy is but a part -- but the interruption of *shuttle* services is putting a serious crimp in overall capability.<br />
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Finally, "Assuming that Russia and China do not retaliate with a missile attack against the USA and its assets, using nuclear weapons against Iran could push the rest of the world to use its only real defense against the USA, dumping the Greenback and destroying the US economy." Good as far as you go with it, and reaching a conclusion similar to my own. But I would phrase it differently. If one believes that the ONLY known and likely users of *nukular* weapons is so mad as to follow up the depleted-uranium irradiation of the *cradle of civilization* and *Yugoslavia* for not obeying the dictates of the money cartel -- IMF, World Bank, Bank of International Settlements, Federal Reserve, Bank of England, et cetera -- or their boy *Uncle* JOSEPH STEELMAN of Moscow. Only the Chinese seem out of the loop, but not for long. Learning continues. Adjustments are made. An almost-perfect divide-and-rule arrangement except for *blowback*.<br />
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In this instance, one genuinely believes that neither Russians nor Chinese would initiate a nuclear exchange. And maybe they won't have to. But the greatest risk at the moment appears to be that the more endangered the dollar becomes, the greater will be the dollar-demonic tendency to attack, and damn the torpedoes. As discussed, the attack Iraq scenario was a *demonstration*, as are the continuing massacres at Fallajah and Tal Amir and so many embattled places. The fortress mentality is reigning supreme, and the strategy of dominance from the sky requires the building of the armed bases in occupied and ruined lands. Consider their vulnerability, though. Not so much from external threat as internal rebellion, almost all the Anglo-American-Dutch puppet states are endangered. Something like a Planetary Peoples' liberation agenda.<br />
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Our guess is that, rather than promising tit-for-tat M.A.D. retaliation, the other parties -- especially Russia and China -- are agreed that they would rather try to survive the collapse of AmercaNomics than face the consequences of nuclear devastation. It's a considered opinion but based on personal research of primary sources -- people.<br />
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Without going autobiographical, one had the opportunity to meet, converse with and be inspired by Bucky Fuller, pursuant to which in one's perambulations one asked virtually everyone met well enough to do so, the following question: "Which would you rather try to survive: an economic collapse or a nuclear war?" At the time -- 1971-1974 -- one was an expat Canduvian in never-again land. The point of which anecdote is the necessity of reporting the tragic and disillusioning results of this one-person conduct of hundreds -- maybe upwards of a thousand all told -- of spontaneous, single-question, undocumented, off-the-cuff, on-the-fly, either-or *questionaires*. The OVERWHELMING majority answered, with barely a pause for reflection, that they'd rather try to survive THE BOMB. Upon realization of the near-unanimity of this response, one departed the USA, rarely, briefly, to return.<br />
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Now we know quite a few things, but we don't yet wonder *why* often enough. For example, everyone reading these words will be familiar with the phrase *dumbing down* as in Charlotte Izerbyt's *The Dumbing of America*. We don't ask why, and we should. Look into how ROCKEFELLER (and other *robber baron*) family fortunes get invested *philanthropically* in secretly dominating, among much else, *curricular development*, *textbook publishing* and *educational reform*. This gives the twin benefits of *good PR* as well as effective (covert) control of how education evolves.<br />
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In the medical arena, we seem on the verge of no longer being able to afford *alopathic* types of treatment -- which are increasingly attempting to dominate on a world scale. The pharmaceutical companies should, more correctly, be known as *petroceutical cartels* -- many of them direct descendants of the famous I.G. Farben cartel, without which the second world war could not have been fought. Why? We look back and learn that it was the ROCEFELLER-funded Institute for Medical Research, which later transforms in the Rockefeller Foundation, imports and capitalized ERMAN medical practice. [See the remarkable work of Dr. Leonard Horowitz.]<br />
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In the area of religion, the examples are legion. But in the aftermath of Katrina, many are stating that the dominant religion among the African-American population is BAPTIST. Figure it out for yourself. JOHN THE BAPTIST Davison Wreckafellow was the key investor in the *Baptist Theological College* which he transformed in the *University of Chicago* in the late 1880s. By 1903-1904, Rockefakir is funding an entity called the General Education Board -- get the pattern? *standard* oil, *general* education, *special* operations -- which takes over where the Reconstruction era following the American Civil War leaves off, and completely dominate *educating* these unfortunate masses, and *enticing* them into cities are cheap labor. The remaining black holdouts are either in Africa or Haiti, and look what's happening to them!<br />
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Here's where I'll leave it. Russia and China could be threatening to Boycott Greenbacks AND Euros by putting in place a long-term and just solution to Japanese requirements, by opening a Yen-denominated petroleum exchange facility. Thus liberated, the withdrawal of Yen-support would flush the dollar down the econo-volutionary toilet. Sure it would be hard, devastating even, to a great many in lots of places, but more survivable, maybe not quite as localized and demonstrably *pre-ordained* a catastrophe as post-Katarina New Orleans, Lake Ponchartrain, the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf Current. (The Bermuda Triangle?) Talk about *blowback*. The *militaristic* response is suspiciously too *ready to roll* and almost too deadly to contemplate. But that there overall intent is terroristic is beyond doubt. If you haven't, try to find Cindy Sheehan's latest outspokenness, a call for US troops to end *the occupation of New Orleans*.<br />
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Keep the Faith. Stay brave. Be prepared. Watch for the signs. Ask Tom King not King Tom [DeLay]. Global dominance is not yet a fait accomli, so a huge part of what's going on is stalling for time while trying to *save face*. It's rather a sad finish line for the human *race*.<br />
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We may not all survive, but some of our offspring might, or some of theirs. In the alternative scenario, the odds are slim to none that such an outcome is possible in any long run.<br />
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Again, congratulations for this excellent discussion, to which one hopes to have made a worthy contribution while becoming familiar with inputting content. Please excuse any typos or garble-de-glitches which have escaped attention and correction; the old eye isn't what it once was but still aims high. You're welcome to look at work in progress, such as it is, at <a href="http://www.pccentre.ca/ding">http://www.pccentre.ca/ding</a> (which is added-to almost daily and updated less frequently) if you're curious. It's a chronofile of the recently concluded *millennium* -- quite rich in some places and a bit thin in others, but progresing nicely.<br />
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For a freer, fairer, Fuller Future, *ding*
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